twisted neutrals

[Jerry Lozier]

Never seen grounded conductors done this way... I call them out when there are 2 or more or combined with a ground under one lug on bar. However there is no way one could come loose and both are same gauge 12awg... any problem here??

Yes there are 2 grounds at lug above with different gauges, probably not best practice.

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[Jim Katen]

Never seen grounded conductors done this way... I call them out when there are 2 or more or combined with a ground under one lug on bar. However there is no way one could come loose and both are same gauge 12awg... any problem here??

Yes there are 2 grounds at lug above with different gauges, probably not best practice.

Twisted or not, the lugs aren't listed to hold more than one neutral.

The twisting will make it slightly more difficult to isolate a circuit during furture trouble shooting.

Nothing about the twisting method is "better" than simply sticking the two wires under the lug.

- Jim Katen, Oregon

[Jerry Lozier]

Never seen grounded conductors done this way... I call them out when there are 2 or more or combined with a ground under one lug on bar. However there is no way one could come loose and both are same gauge 12awg... any problem here??

Yes there are 2 grounds at lug above with different gauges, probably not best practice.

Twisted or not, the lugs aren't listed to hold more than one neutral.

The twisting will make it slightly more difficult to isolate a circuit during furture trouble shooting.

Nothing about the twisting method is "better" than simply sticking the two wires under the lug.

- Jim Katen, Oregon

thanks Jim, good point, had not thought about the isolation challenge.... you are an excellant source for consistantly good info.... so that brings up multiple grounds under lug rated for one wire, or is lug rated only for (no more than one neutral because it cares current?)

[Jim Katen]

. . . so that brings up multiple grounds under lug rated for one wire, or is lug rated only for (no more than one neutral because it cares current?)

The lugs will typically be rated for two or three grounding wires (depending on the size of the wires), but only one "grounded" (neutral) wire because, as you say, it carries current. The grounding wires only have to carry current for a split second.

You'll find the lugs' limitations printed on the panel schematic.

- Jim Katen, Oregon