Shower enclosure

[Phillip]

Hi to all.

Take a look at this shower set up and tell me what you think.

To me the glass wall does not have enough support and could be knocked down if some one fell against it.

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[Jim Katen]

Hi to all.

Take a look at this shower set up and tell me what you think.

To me the glass wall does not have enough support and could be knocked down if some one fell against it.

I think it'd break if someone were to fall against it.

- Jim Katen, Oregon

[Richard Moore]

Or shatter just by closing the door hard? Is it me or is that glass to glass contact?

[Marc]

A shower is considered a hazardous location. Glass panes install in these locations should have a designation permanently embossed into the glass by way of acid etching, sandblasting or other method. Perhaps look for that designation and research whether it is approved for use as shower stall doors.

Marc

[Richard Moore]

Marc, I think it is a given that we know the glass should be tempered in this situation. The concern is that the homeowner will soon be sweeping up all the little bits after it shatters unnecessarily.

[Mike Lamb]

Glass panes install in these locations should have a designation permanently embossed into the glass by way of acid etching, sandblasting or other method. Marc

I wish that was true but it's not. As far as the IRC is concerned, a label can be used that when removed, is permanently destoyed.

[Phillip]

Or shatter just by closing the door hard? Is it me or is that glass to glass contact?

It is glass to glass contact. I have seen two of this set up this week and I have seen more this year than the last five years.

[Jim Katen]

Or shatter just by closing the door hard? Is it me or is that glass to glass contact?

It is glass to glass contact. I have seen two of this set up this week and I have seen more this year than the last five years.

What would happen if you were to "accidentally" slam one shut?

[kurt]

The same thing that can happen when you set the edge of a tempered pane on a small pebble that you didn't see on the floor; the sucker can explode from point of contact.

I think glass to glass would do the same thing, given the right (wrong?) amount of force.

[hausdok]

Hi,

I don't think there is any glass-to-glass contact. I've seen a number of these and the doors usually have a gap between panels so there is no glass-to-glass contact. They are made from that super strong stuff they use for see-through balcony railings. When they're mounted on balconies there are usually very few mounting points, just like there. I'm not sure how they're made but the last one I looked at looked like some kind of lamination; kind of like windshield glass if you know what I mean.

ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!

Mike

[Bill Kibbel]

Frameless shower walls and frameless glass doors are not only tempered, but "toughened" as well. Toughened glass is annealed (stress free) glass that has been heat strengthened. At 1/4"-3/8" thick it's about 5-6 times more resistant to breaking than annealed glass of the same thickness. I wouldn't be concerned about glass breaking, but I think Phillip's initial concern of not having enough support is valid.

Oh, and shower walls/doors are not required to have "a designation permanently embossed into the glass".

[kurt]

You know, you're probably right. I see this quite a bit, I always report it, but it's never come up where someone's shower door broke.

[john_opwin]

I do have the same opinion if some one fell against it, it could be chop down.