Robert Jones Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Lennox furnace. Electric. Model # and serial # are the same. Is there a way to figure out the date of manufacture? The age chart doesn't help in this instance. Click to Enlarge 40.64 KB Click to Enlarge 45.99 KB
Richard Moore Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 The style of the sticker would suggest at least 30 years old. I can't help beyond that. My best guess with most electric "furnaces" I find around here is that they are the same age as the house. Keep in mind that there's no heat exchager to rust out. Any elements, no matter how old, could burn out tomorrow, but they can be replaced, as can a bad blower motor. Efficiency wise, I doubt that a new one is noticably better than a 50 year old model. So...actual age doesn't worry me that much with electric furnaces. I run them and "clamp" the element wires. They are either working or not.
Robert Jones Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Posted November 3, 2009 Thanks Richard. The home was built in 1955 and originally had an oil fired furnace. I don't usually get to concerned with dating an electric "furnace", really not much to them and you stated. My reporting software just has a spot for the age and figured I would try. Thanks again.
Bill Kibbel Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 The model number has no date info. It has coding for the place of manufacture and also indicates that it's a horizontal electric furnace, 208/230v single phase and 60 hertz. There is a separate small rectangle-shaped tag with rounded corners that is clearly labeled "SERIAL NUMBER". It starts with 4 numbers and 1 letter, space, then 5 numbers. 5178M 99989 would be manufactured in 1978. Efficiency wise, I doubt that a new one is noticably better than a 50 year old model.Improvements in sequencing. If I was buying a house with an electric furnace (no matter the age) and it has AC, I'd be puttin' in a heat pump moments after closing.
Robert Jones Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Posted November 3, 2009 Thanks Bill, I have added a pic of the serial #. Identical to the model #.
Bill Kibbel Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 The "58" is where the (complete) serial number is usually stamped. Thar be some digits missin'.
Robert Jones Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Posted November 3, 2009 Got it. Thanks for the time.
Richard Moore Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Am I right in thinking that "58" is a code for the factory location?
Bill Kibbel Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Am I right in thinking that "58" is a code for the factory location? You're probably right. In the serial number example I posted above, the first 2 digits are listed as the "division".Columbus 51 Des Moines 53 Ft Worth 54 Heatcraft 55 Stuttgart 56 Marshalltown 58 Toronto 63 So Robert's tag is missing everything after the first 2 digits. The furnace was assembled in Marshalltown, IA, which is also the original location of the Lennox Furnace Company, incorporated in 1904.
Richard Moore Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Quote: Efficiency wise, I doubt that a new one is noticably better than a 50 year old model.Improvements in sequencing. Bill, if you're still there...isn't sequencing of the elements more to do with providing a soft amp-draw start than it has to do with efficiency? I thought that with electric furnaces you basically get out what you put in.
Bill Kibbel Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Richard, As usual, you are correct. Heat relays or time-delay sequencers are used for "spacing the load". I should have used the word staging instead of sequencing. Some recent electric furnaces are capable of having multiple stages as an energy saving feature. Two or more elements can be sequenced on within each stage of heat. I know of one Lennox electric furnace that was configured for 6 stages. It was accomplished with multiple outdoor thermostats.
hausdok Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 When I get those old Lennox furnaces; if the manual or other documents are there, I usually check out the manual for a publication date stamped in the lower corner of the manual, warranty card, etc.. It's usually pretty close to manufacture date. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
RichNSpect Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 Good Information in this thread!! I just use the Preston Guide http://www.prestonguide.com/ I need the extra data that the book provides for Home Energy Performance Surveys. Kevin
MTL_Inspet_Man Posted November 4, 2009 Report Posted November 4, 2009 True some of these type of furnaces may be 30 yrs old, however usually elements may fail and individual elements can be replaced hence extending the life of the furnace. As a result a good maintenance log and manual near by is a good indication of the reliabilty of the unit.
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