Brandon Whitmore Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 It seems strange to me that the IBC (OSSC) has a min. 4" riser height requirement, while the IRC (ORSC) does not. A trip hazard's a trip hazard, so this seems like a loophole to me. Does this mean that areas of unevenness (lips) in concrete can be called risers?-- no need to call for repair[:-taped] I think I'll stick to writing up anything less than 4" as a trip hazard and leave it at that. Anyone else have any pet peeves with our building codes?
Jim Katen Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 It seems strange to me that the IBC (OSSC) has a min. 4" riser height requirement, while the IRC (ORSC) does not. A trip hazard's a trip hazard, so this seems like a loophole to me. The ORSC does have that requirement. It's at 311.5.3.4 (The rise of a step or steps exclusive of a threshold shall not be less than 4 inches or greater than 8 inches.) Does this mean that areas of unevenness (lips) in concrete can be called risers?-- no need to call for repair[:-taped] I think I'll stick to writing up anything less than 4" as a trip hazard and leave it at that. Anyone else have any pet peeves with our building codes? I'd like it to come right out and say that there should be 18" clearance throughout a crawlspace. I'd also like it to come right out and say that crawlspaces should be designed so that they don't accumulate standing water. - Jim Katen, Oregon
Brandon Whitmore Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Posted October 24, 2009 The ORSC does have that requirement. It's at 311.5.3.4 (The rise of a step or steps exclusive of a threshold shall not be less than 4 inches or greater than 8 inches.) Crap, I guess I need to be added to the dumb list. I've gotta quit reading too many building codes. I start to forget where I've read everything.[:-paperba Hey, at last I've always reported it, just not while quoting the code. To add to the list: Those risers that vary in height at sloped walkways, driveways, etc.
Jim Katen Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Actually, after some reflection, I'm thinking that the problem with present day building codes is that they have no teeth. I kind of like the elegant simplicity of the first building code, written by Hamurabi. "If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then that builder shall be put to death." It's clear, unequivocal, and persuasive. - Jim Katen, Oregon
Brandon Whitmore Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Posted October 24, 2009 "If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then that builder shall be put to death." Finish this one: If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built leaks______________
gtblum Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Finish this one: If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built leaks______________ Brandon like a crying Red sox fan, He shall be .... Hmm. I need more coffee.
Terence McCann Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Finish this one: If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built leaks______________ like a screen door on a submarine, he should be taken out back and shot. Ok, that may have been pretty harsh - how about a good old fashion horse whipping. If I had a horse I'd whip him myself. I once shot an elephant in my pajamas, how he got there I'll never know. Think I'll stop now. [:-paperba
hausdok Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I once shot an elephant in my pajamas, how he got there I'll never know. Terry, We're your friends and we're concerned about you. It's clearly time to call Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers and seek help kicking the old hand-to-mounth syndrome if elephants are wearing your pajamas. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
Terence McCann Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I must confess - I blatantly took those from Groucho.
Jim Katen Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 "If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then that builder shall be put to death." Finish this one: If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built leaks______________ . . . he shall be put to death. Hammurabi was big on putting people to death.
randynavarro Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I'd like it to come right out and say that there should be 18" clearance throughout a crawlspace. I'd also like it to come right out and say that crawlspaces should be designed so that they don't accumulate standing water. - Jim Katen, Oregon I'd like to say we should ban crawlspaces altogether.
Mike Lamb Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Guard rails should be required next to any areas with an 18" drop or more.
Erby Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 Jim - you gotta remember Hamurabi used common sense. Building code uses ... well, I'm stumped. I don't know what they use, but it ain't common sense!
Don Woodring Posted October 26, 2009 Report Posted October 26, 2009 My pet peeve with the building codes is that they don't require adequate lighting and receptacles in garages. Consequently, we find so much crappy homeowner wiring in garages.
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