sepefrio Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Not much into insect types or what they do but just curious if A leads to B here. Found these little critters in multiple window sills. Any clue what they are? An interesting point, there are no holes in the screen and the storm windows were closed. The interior windows were stuck shut enough to show that they are rarely if ever opened. So unless there are opening I'm unaware of, not sure how they got there. Click to Enlarge 23.63 KB I also found this on the rake. OK I know it's a WDI, but could this be from those dead critters above. This home only had a few of these holes but the neighbors house rake board was worse than Swiss cheese Click to Enlarge 11.96 KB Click to Enlarge 15.1 KB I know I know, not my job really to link the two. Report and move on, I just like to know []
Richard Moore Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Tough to say for absolute certain without seeing the size of the emergence holes, but they sure look a lot like Anobiids (Deathwatch Beetles). There could be some very serious damage with structural wood reduced to little but a shell. You can read a bit about them here... http://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/CEPublications/ ... b1577e.pdf Note that the original infestation could have been 5 or 6 or more years ago and the larvae have been happily munching away the interior of wood since then.
hausdok Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 White grub adult - pyllophagia. OT - OF!!! M.
Robert Jones Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 I agree Richard. Unless you were using an ice pick on that surface in the second picture, they appear to be emergence holes.
Richard Moore Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 White grub adult - pyllophagia. [?] I usually know what you are talking about Mike, but you've got me there. [?] Ahhh...OK...you mean Phyllophaga, Scarab or June Beetles. Could be I guess, but then why would they be at an inside window sill? From what I just read about them, they feed on vegetation at all stages of life..
sepefrio Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Posted June 10, 2009 Just so it's clear, this is the one of the windows. Another interesting point but not sure if it's a factor, these were only found in the back windows, facing west. One large tree in the back yard, did not over hang the roof or deck. Closest branch was at least 10-15ft away from the house. They were found between the storm window and the interior window on the sill. No visible entry points. The rest of home was spotless. If the current owner ever opened these, they surely would have cleaned them. Click to Enlarge 48.04 KB
Richard Moore Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 In your first photo John, it looks like there is maybe some powdery white frass around the dead beetles(?). That would be consistent with anobiids exiting from somewhere above. But...it might not be and it's all really just a guess, tough to tell from the photos, and a good reason why pest inspections are done on site and not remotely.
sepefrio Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Posted June 10, 2009 Aye, he will be out Thursday, I'll let you know what he says. Just kind of impatient and as we all know, this website has the answer to everything!
Richard Moore Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 "...this website has the answer to everything!" That would be 42. []
Bill Kibbel Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 In your first photo John, it looks like there is maybe some powdery white frass around the dead beetles(?). That would be consistent with anobiids exiting from somewhere above. But...it might not be and it's all really just a guess, tough to tell from the photos, and a good reason why pest inspections are done on site and not remotely. Phyllophaga is a genus of Scarab beetles. June beetles are just one of a couple hundred species of that genus. There are species that eat plants, poo and rotting flesh. I can't make a good guess without seeing the antennae. Many types are attracted to light (windows at night). At some point, the screen likely wasn't properly in place.
sepefrio Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Posted June 10, 2009 Here is a little closer look Click to Enlarge 45.85 KB
Bill Kibbel Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Cigarette beetle. Originally a problem for tobacco warehousing and processing, as the name covertly implies. They can also be found in many dried foods, dry plant matter and even dry dog food. Common in VA back when I lived there and they are attracted to light. Topic: "Name that bug" If I'm right, do I win anything?
hausdok Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 This is what I figured. Either this Click to Enlarge 7.2 KB Or this Click to Enlarge 6.88 KB Both scarab variants. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
hausdok Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Cigarette beetle. Originally a problem for tobacco warehousing and processing, as the name covertly implies. They can also be found in many dried foods, dry plant matter and even dry dog food. Common in VA back when I lived there and they are attracted to light. Topic: "Name that bug" If I'm right, do I win anything? Yep, If you're right. A 10-year supply of Preparation H. OT - OF!!! M.
SonOfSwamp Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Those are June Bugs. I've seen those bugs ever since I was a kid, from South Carolina to Tennessee. Best I know, they eat no wood. The feed on leaves, at night. They will fly into a house if a window or door is left open. The grubs live underground for 2 - 3 years. They do some harm to trees and shrubs. I say don't call 'em wood destroying insects, because you'd likely be dead wrong. But don't go by me. I'm not a bug man. WJ
ghentjr Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Not much into insect types or what they do but just curious if A leads to B here. Found these little critters in multiple window sills. Any clue what they are? An interesting point, there are no holes in the screen and the storm windows were closed. The interior windows were stuck shut enough to show that they are rarely if ever opened. So unless there are opening I'm unaware of, not sure how they got there. Click to Enlarge 23.63 KB I also found this on the rake. OK I know it's a WDI, but could this be from those dead critters above. This home only had a few of these holes but the neighbors house rake board was worse than Swiss cheese Click to Enlarge 11.96 KB Click to Enlarge 15.1 KB I know I know, not my job really to link the two. Report and move on, I just like to know [] The stuff in the rake is carpenter bee damage. Not related to the June bugs.
Jim Katen Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Not much into insect types or what they do but just curious if A leads to B here. Found these little critters in multiple window sills. Any clue what they are? An interesting point, there are no holes in the screen and the storm windows were closed. The interior windows were stuck shut enough to show that they are rarely if ever opened. So unless there are opening I'm unaware of, not sure how they got there. There's no way to even come close to identifying those beetles without either seeing a key to their size or a detailed picture of the head & mouthparts. They could be any of dozens of different kinds. Anobiids are about as big as a grain of rice while Junebugs can get as big as my thumb. How big were these? I also found this on the rake. OK I know it's a WDI, but could this be from those dead critters above. There's no size key. Comparing it to the vinyl j-channel, it looks like that hole is about 3" long. Is that right? We don't have carpenter bees here. Can they do that? - Jim Katen, Oregon
Tom Raymond Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 "There's no size key. Comparing it to the vinyl j-channel, it looks like that hole is about 3" long. Is that right? We don't have carpenter bees here. Can they do that?" Yup. The entry and exit holes are typically 3/8" to 1/2" and nearly perfectly round. They tend to burrow in 18" to 20", but I have seen burrows more than 3'. Sometimes the burrow is so close to the surface that you can almost see through the wood, the elongated hole looks like one of those instances and has either weathered or broken through. The bees are at least as loud as humming birds when they fly by. Tom
Les Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 In Michigan carpenter bees typically go in 3/4" then take a 90deg turn for one to several inches. They may use the entry hole and have several perpendicular "tunnels", like spokes on a wheel. They can do extensive damage that is often concealed.
Kyle Kubs Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 The first picture looks like what I've always called Japaneese Beetles, wouldn't have given them a second glance on an inspection. The second & third photo's are definitely Carpenter Bee Damage. They're very prevalent here. You often see them hovering around the holes this time of year if they are active. Download Attachment: DSCN1553.JPG 967.41 KB
Bill Kibbel Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 Those are June Bugs. I've seen those bugs ever since I was a kid, from South Carolina to Tennessee. I was taught that June Bugs only come in green and black. I've known folks to call any beetles that have a certain shape June Bugs. When I was in VA, it was more often than not, Cigarette beetles.
gtblum Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 Click to Enlarge 6.33 KB June bug (July here) Click to Enlarge 11.66 KB Japanese beetle Click to Enlarge 23.13 KB Royal Wulff
Les Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 Here are some photos of bugs in my office. I could not get the earpiece off to photo the most important one. Click to Enlarge 56.31 KB office pets Click to Enlarge 53.01 KB From my collection of inflatable toys Click to Enlarge 80.13 KB Found these in a carpenter bee tunnel enjoy, it is Friday!!!
dnoel Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 No mentioned it .... these guys live underground and ruin your lawn. You'll see yellow patches where they concentrate. Grubs they be, damned they be.
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