John Dirks Jr Posted May 2, 2009 Report Posted May 2, 2009 Tools are only as good as the user. I got a good tool, the Protimeter SM. So what are the common mistakes that can be made when using this tool? What are its weak points and where does it shine? What can it do? What can't it do? I'm just out for general knowledge of reasonable expectations and proper usage.
randynavarro Posted May 2, 2009 Report Posted May 2, 2009 Some types of cement backer board will set it off and so will certain types of porcelain and marble tile. The meter is useless on these materials. Something to do with the mineral content - not sure which mineral(s). I left my periodic chart by my bedside.
caryseidner Posted May 2, 2009 Report Posted May 2, 2009 Metal will set it off. It's good to remember this when checking areas around a metal drywall corner bead.
Chris Bernhardt Posted May 2, 2009 Report Posted May 2, 2009 The aquant/sm is good for the first 1/4" or so of a material. If you want to detect roof leaks dripping on the back side surface of ceiling drywall, you'll need a tramex moisture encounter plus. I use four different moisture meters in practice, perhaps more if I find another one with some set of exclusive characteristics. Chris, Oregon
Scottpat Posted May 2, 2009 Report Posted May 2, 2009 It has been my experience that the SM has a fairly limited detection depth. I would say about 1 inch and maybe a little less in the scan or non-pin mode. It will not detect moisture in a wall cavity unless that drywall has already started to get wet. The Tramex moisture encounter is better at doing this. As others have said you need to be on the lookout for "False" positive readings. Anything with a metallic backing or ingredient will screw with the meter and provide a false reading. Corner beads on drywall and window flanges will do it all the time. While doing some EIFS inspections, I discovered some homes in the Bowling Green KY area that the builder used a Mylar type product as a wind barrier in the walls. It made it impossible to get good readings due to the Mylar product. It also created some other interesting problems...[]
Jim Katen Posted May 2, 2009 Report Posted May 2, 2009 And don't forget dried urine. If you're scanning the floor around a toilet, dried urine will set it off. Grab a wad of toilet paper and scrub the area carefullly to get a more accurate reading. - Jim Katen, Oregon
Rocon Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 Salts, and lime will cause it to give false probe readings due to conductance (urine mentioned above). If you have a new model it is much better than the older models at differentiating surface verses underlying moisture. Like was mentioned before Tramex makes several models that can measure as deep as six inches.
John Dirks Jr Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Posted May 3, 2009 Thanks for all the tips. What are the most common areas of the home where the SM will be successful in detecting elevated moisture levels?
hausdok Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 Thanks for all the tips. What are the most common areas of the home where the SM will be successful in detecting elevated moisture levels? Behind tub and shower surrounds, floors around toilets, window casings, walls beneath windows, floors in kitchens, laundries and bathrooms, floors in front of entrances. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
Scottpat Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 Thanks for all the tips. What are the most common areas of the home where the SM will be successful in detecting elevated moisture levels? Behind tub and shower surrounds, floors around toilets, window casings, walls beneath windows, floors in kitchens, laundries and bathrooms, floors in front of entrances. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Good list! Just about every single french door that I find has some type of leakage. When I see a french door it is a red flag and the moisture meter comes out.
kurt Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 My single recommendation is to carry it with you at all times, and use it on anything and everything. It's amazing how some stuff can be wet without a single visual trace of problems.
John Dirks Jr Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Posted May 4, 2009 My single recommendation is to carry it with you at all times, and use it on anything and everything. It's amazing how some stuff can be wet without a single visual trace of problems. Yeah, I thought of doing that. Its not heavy or bulky. It will hardly be noticed in the cargo pants leg pocket.
BlindMatrix Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Here you can find some useful information about moisture meter http://www.processsensors.com/
hmiller Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Tools are only as good as the user. Isn't that true. There are alot of folks who think they can just buy the tool and become an instant expert. Reality is there are alot of variables with moisture meters and the materials/circumstances you "encounter". (no pun intended....well maybe) I can say I have seen and talked with way too many sellers, contractors, agents, and other inspectors about the bathroom floors that showed no visible evidence of leakage, yet were deemed defective by someone with a moisture meter. Most dissapointing (to the individual paying the bill), is when these floors are "filleted" open to find "nothing".
kelvinjona Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Tools are only as good as the user. I got a good tool, the Protimeter SM. So what are the common mistakes that can be made when using this tool? What are its weak points and where does it shine? What can it do? What can't it do? I'm just out for general knowledge of reasonable expectations and proper usage. Hi wats the features of this tool ?
RichNSpect Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 You might want to get this book: http://www.amazon.com/Dampness-Building ... 370&sr=1-2
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