Terence McCann Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 It's looks like the tips of cotton Q-tips but when you touch them they turn into a white, chalk like, powder. Thanks. Click to View 50.9 KB
hausdok Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 It's only a guess but from your description of how it crumbles to dust I'd say it's probably UFFI - urea-formaldehyde foam insulation. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
hausdok Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Thanks Bill, I'd learned about that stuff when I first trained for this gig; but, since I haven't ever seen any, I'd forgotten all about it. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
Terence McCann Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Posted January 24, 2009 Originally posted by inspecthistoric Perlite. Aye, that's it (did a Google search and found some pics). Good, bad, health hazard? Thanks Bill.
Bill Kibbel Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Perlite comes from a volcanic glass/rock. It's heated, pops like popcorn, puffs up with little tiny air bubbles and turns white. For insulation, it's usually used as loose fill in hollow masonry units. It's also added to concrete for a lighter, more fire resistant mix (IE: cast-in-place flue liners). No health risks.
Richard Moore Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 I did a bit of googling myself as I'm also not familiar with the stuff. As far as health goes, at worst it seems to be an irritant. See... http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0491.html http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/25051#section2 http://www.schundler.com/perlitehealth.htm The last seems to come from the perlite industry, but there's nothing in it that appears to be contradicted by the others. In short...it isn't another "asbestos" but it would still be wise to wear a dust mask in the attic.
kurt Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Perlite is most commonly seen in "Structolite", a great patching plaster. It's pretty rare to see in loose form like this.
Brandon Whitmore Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 It's also the white stuff you see mixed into potting soil.....
hausdok Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 If you use the stuff in the cavities of a CMU wall won't it get damp, and what happens to it if it does get damp? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
caryseidner Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 It is also used in BUR, CTP & Mod Bit roofing systems as an overlay board over existing roof systems, wood decks and iscocyanurate insulation board. It is pressed into 1/2" or 3/4" (typically) and comes in 2' x 4' sheets. It is brown and does not hold up well when it gets wet. They also make tapered roof systems from it.
Les Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 When I first looked at the material I thought it was Perlite. But, I have never seen Perlite brand look like this and I have never seen it "turn to powder". Guess I have seen it a few hundred times and used it in block, ceiling covering, attic and wall insulation, vegetable garden, etc. This photo has very inconsistent granules and does not seem to level itself like Perlite does. I'm going to have to stay neutral on this one. It may just be a residue from expanded styrofoam that was used for insulation.
Terence McCann Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 Any guess Les? I've never seen actual Perlite so I can't say for sure.
Les Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Well, For one thing, even tho all the experts say Perlite is not a brand, it is a "brand" in many instances. I just aquired two new bags a couple of weeks ago from an attic and they were clearly labeled Perlite. I just don't recall ever seeing perlite turn to dust as you indicate. "Polarfoam" was another product that could be poured in cmus. Only thing I would be concerned about is the dust created and flame spread, if any. I will try to find the bags I brought to the shop and photograph them. Wish me luck as this is the month I usually dung out the barn and send treasures around the world to bigger pack rats that me!
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