StevenT Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 Should the lighting circuits in bedrooms be tied into AFCI breaker? Should the outlets be on the same AFCI circuit as lighting?
Jeff Remas Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 Yes in bedrooms and since there needs to be hard wired smoke detectors then they too must be on the AFCI breaker. Lighting and outlets for bedrooms do not have to be on the same circuit but most of the time they are. Typically there is 1 AFCI breaker (combination type) per bedroom and one of those also feeds the smokes.
SWagar Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 The NEC says that branch circuits supplying outlets need to be ACFI protected. It says nothing about AFCI in Lighting circuits. If the Lights are on the same circuit as Outlets then they will be AFCI protected by virtue of being on the same circuit as AFCI protected outlets. Generally in new construction, for me anyway, lights are on separate circuits from outlets. I don't think (in general) that there is any prohibition of putting lights and outlets on the same circuit. I know there are some specific case where they cannot be e.g. kitchen small apliance circuits.
Richard Saunders Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 The lighting fixtures and smoke detectors are also electrical outlets, as opposed to receptacles so yes, they need to be protected
SWagar Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 Yep , you 're right about the outlet issue, I mis-interpreted the nomenclature of the code book. An Outlet (per the NEC) is a receptacle, light fixture or smoke alarm. -
hausdok Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 Hi, The correct answer will eventually pop out here but if you're in a hurry and can't wait for the debate to come to consensus you might go over and see what folks have said about it on Mike Holt's NEC codes forum. OT - OF!!! M.
msteger Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 Any place you 'tap' into electrical power can be an outlet, such as a receptacle, light, hardwired smoke detector, etc. Bedroom outlets must be AFCI protected. Closet lighting does not have to be AFCI protected, although often, closet lighting is on the same circuit as the bedroom circuit which would already have to be AFCI protected. Most of the time in my area in new construction, I see each bedroom having its own AFCI breaker.
HOTWATERHEATER Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 well its febuary and all outlets that are not gfci protected are now to be afci protected
hendrix Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Any place you 'tap' into electrical power can be an outlet, such as a receptacle, light, hardwired smoke detector, etc. Bedroom outlets must be AFCI protected. Closet lighting does not have to be AFCI protected, although often, closet lighting is on the same circuit as the bedroom circuit which would already have to be AFCI protected. Most of the time in my area in new construction, I see each bedroom having its own AFCI breaker. 210.12(B) states that closit lighting must have AFCI protection.
robert1966 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 I have found that both the outlets and switches are wired on the same AFCIs. With the new codes in Texas, all new home bedroom outlets are required to be on AFCI protectors. Robert, http:www.atexinspects.com Should the lighting circuits in bedrooms be tied into AFCI breaker? Should the outlets be on the same AFCI circuit as lighting?
Nolan Kienitz Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Robert, AFCIs have been required in sleeping areas of new home construction since January-2002. All locations, not protected by GFCIs, are now required to have AFCI protection. This per the 2008 NEC. Will come into play as AHJs adopt same. Per the new TREC SOP that is one of the new/refreshed items we have to inspect for.
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