Bain Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 From 15-across in today's NYT crossword. The clue--Bay window. Answer--Oriel. Never heard of it, but Google says it's so.
gtblum Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 In Baltimore they............ No, I just can't.
SonOfSwamp Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Oriel has been a word -- and a thing -- for a long time. www.co.lancaster.pa.us/.../Oriel.jpg WJ
charlieb Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Originally posted by SonOfSwamp Oriel has been a word -- and a thing -- for a long time. www.co.lancaster.pa.us/.../Oriel.jpg WJ Not in cyber space---------today Our site was recently updated and we cannot locate the URL that you have requested. Your bookmarks and favorites may not be correct. From Server: LCWEB1 Lancaster County Website Well, lunch is over I've got a 1:00
Bill Kibbel Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 I don't refer to an oriel as a bay window.
Tom Raymond Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 An oriel is a window with unequal sash, typically the top sash is smaller than the bottom sash in a double or single hung window, usually divided 2/5 over 3/5. Interestingly, if you were to reverse that configuration (smaller sash on bottom) it tends to be called a cottage window. Sliding windows with unequal sash are also often refered to as oriels. There are regional variations as well. Tom Bay Window was a lousy clue.
Bill Kibbel Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Originally posted by Tom Raymond An oriel is a window with unequal sash, typically the top sash is smaller than the bottom sash in a double or single hung window, usually divided 2/5 over 3/5. What's your source for that? An oriel window is multi-sash, faceted window assembly that projects from a wall and is usually supported by brackets or corbels
Neal Lewis Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Originally posted by Tom Raymond Interestingly, if you were to reverse that configuration (smaller sash on bottom) it tends to be called a cottage window. I've always thought the smaller sash on top was a cottage window. Never seen a window with a smaller sash on the bottom.
Brian G Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Another day, another tiny nugget of knowledge. Gotta love TIJ and the contributers that make it worthwhile. [:-thumbu] Brian G. Uncommon Knowledge Is Hard to Find [:-graduat
Bain Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Posted July 17, 2008 Interesting, isn't it Brian, that we southerners were clueless, while the Yanks--who apparently see them much more often than us--were familiar with them. There are maybe fifty houses in Lexington that have oriels, most of them located downtown.
SonOfSwamp Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Originally posted by Bain Interesting, isn't it Brian, that we southerners were clueless, while the Yanks--who apparently see them much more often than us--were familiar with them. There are maybe fifty houses in Lexington that have oriels, most of them located downtown. Uh, ahem. This South Carolina Native/TN transplant was wise to oriels. I like the little bird on their ballcaps... We'd know more about oriels if the Yanks hadn't come down here and burned down all the mid/late 1800s houses. (Imagine smiley here.) WJ
Brian G Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 I don't know that I've ever seen one here, but I'll be on the lookout now. Brian G. I Fount a Leak at the Oreo Wind-er Maam' []
AHI in AR Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Originally posted by Brian G [navy]I don't know that I've ever seen one here, but I'll be on the lookout now. Brian G. Are ya referrin' to the Yanks?
Brian G Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Originally posted by AHI in AR Are ya referrin' to the Yanks? Heck no, I married one. [:-weepn] Brian G. But Mama Started Talkin' To Me Again After the Baby Came Along []
Tom Raymond Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Originally posted by inspecthistoric Originally posted by Tom Raymond An oriel is a window with unequal sash, typically the top sash is smaller than the bottom sash in a double or single hung window, usually divided 2/5 over 3/5. What's your source for that? An oriel window is multi-sash, faceted window assembly that projects from a wall and is usually supported by brackets or corbels Interesting that every dictionary or encyclopedia I found in a quick search describes the same window you describe, and that every window manufacturer site in the same search describes the window I described. Appearently I need to refer to sources much older than the modern manufacturer. BTW, the window I called an oriel appears in a variety of architectural styles (in my corner of the world) built from around 1880 until around 1930 with surprising frequency, and is making a bit of a come back in new construction and remodeling. If this is not an oriel window, what the heck is it called? Tom I was wrong and will take my lashes, but please correct me so that I don't have to take them again.
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