Chris Bernhardt Posted March 24, 2008 Report Posted March 24, 2008 Shouldn't there be stop bead like in stucco installations around windows with stone veneer siding? Image Insert: 79.83 KB Shouldn't manufactuered stone veneer installations basically follow all the stucco guidelines? Chris, Oregon
hausdok Posted March 24, 2008 Report Posted March 24, 2008 Yeah, A gap filled with backer rod and then a layer of caulk on top of that. Around here, they'll sometimes coat the caulk with the same stuff used to top-coat EIFS in order to make it look like mortar. OT - OF!!! M.
stuccoman Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 It is not only a stucco thing! Most window mfgrs. have it in their installation specs no matter what the cladding is.
Paul N Frey Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Chris, there should but you will rarely find in in installations older than 1 year. Print out the Owens Corning guide (or better yet keep it on your computer) and give copies to all concerned. At this point there are 2 choices - leave it and consider the window nailing flange as a drip edge (bad idea) or open the joint so as to install caulking. I tell them to do this regularly. Oregon is famous for maverick installers that don't keep up with requirements. If the installation was after the date on the installation guidelines then tell them to fix it as per supplied paperwork.
hausdok Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Is it an Owens-Corning product? How can you tell? OT - OF!!! M.
Scottpat Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Owens is one of, if not the largest producer of lick and stick stone. Their guidelines are basic and I would think cover all manufacturers just like the basic EIFS guidelines did. This is the link. http://www.culturedstone.com/technical/ I don't have it in a PDF, I always go to the site and look it up. If anyone has it on a PDF I would love to have a copy!!
Chris Bernhardt Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Posted April 1, 2008 Well, crap. It looks like different mfg's have different requirements. Owens corning doesn't require a stop bead like I have seen with some other mfg's. Does that mean I have to figure out the mfg of the lick & stick before I open my mouth? With the OC I have no idea if they have done anything right allowing the installer to mortar right up to the window. Even if it weeps I would imagine that you're going to get some amount of effluorescence at the bottom of windows. Chris, Oregon
Jim Katen Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 Originally posted by Chris Bernhardt Well, crap. It looks like different mfg's have different requirements. Owens corning doesn't require a stop bead like I have seen with some other mfg's. Did you look at drawing 1.7b? http://www.culturedstone.com/technical/ ... tail7b.asp - Jim Katen, Oregon
Chris Bernhardt Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Posted April 1, 2008 I don't understand what is the real difference between the two windows? 1.7A says something about an integral return key and doesn't resemble the window in my initial post. And your right, I didn't look at 1.7B which does have a stop bead and resembles the pic in my post. So you need the stop bead unless you have some special model of the window designed for use with stucco etc. ? Chris, Oregon
Jim Katen Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 Originally posted by Chris Bernhardt . . . So you need the stop bead unless you have some special model of the window designed for use with stucco etc. ? Chris, Oregon Yes. I think so. -Jim Katen, Oregon
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