Spaghetti in Panel

[randynavarro]

What are y'all saying about this?

Just ugly or is it wrong?

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[kurt]

Ugly, but not necessarily wrong or dangerous, IMHO.

The pic doesn't show the important stuff; kind of hard to say.

[Brian G]

Yeah, it's definitely ugly, but we can't tell about wrong from a photo. I would express my concerns, show them the picture, and recommend at least having a good sparky look it over closely (and maybe straighten it out some).

Brian G.

Spaghetti? Whatta' You Talkin'? []

[randynavarro]

Well, I'm specifically enquiring what y'all's opinion of spaghetti is, not any other wiring issues that may be there.

Maybe something about "professional and workmanlike standards. . . ?"

[John Dirks Jr]

One possible problem with a packed mess like that is the screws that hold the panel cover on. If the screws protrude into that mess they can chafe and puncture the wire insulation. Then the next person to touch the panel...el zappo!!! It could happen but I suppose its pretty rare.

[Brian G]

Originally posted by randynavarro

Well, I'm specifically enquiring what y'all's opinion of spaghetti is, not any other wiring issues that may be there.

Maybe something about "professional and workmanlike standards. . . ?"

I would characterize it as "a disorganized mess".

Brian G.

Maybe Throw in "Worse Than My Son's Room" [:-slaphap

[kurt]

If everything else is OK, I wouldn't give it a second thought.

I see pull boxes & trays that look like that all the time. I don't like it, but so what?

[hausdok]

Hi,

They brought all of that cable in through the back of the panel at the bottom and then they had to turn it, twice, to connect to breakers. That can make for a pretty confusing mess but it's not necessarily a bad thing. Sure, they're cool when they bring them all in from to the top and bottom in one straight shot and they're all nicely arranged , but not every electrician is an artist at his/her craft.

ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!

Mike

[Jim Katen]

Originally posted by randynavarro

Well, I'm specifically enquiring what y'all's opinion of spaghetti is, not any other wiring issues that may be there.

Maybe something about "professional and workmanlike standards. . . ?"

You're thinking of 110.12:

Electrical equipment shall be installed in a neat and workmanlike manner.

If you want to know exactly what "neat & workmanlike manner" means, get NECA 1-2000, Standard Practices for Good Workmanship in Electrical Contracting.

Personally, I don't flag stuff like this.

- Jim Katen, Oregon