wingfoot Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I am used to seeing flex metal gas lines inside the fireplace for gas logs but haven't seen copper tubing before. Is this ok? Download Attachment: FPCopperTubing.jpg 199.9 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Hmmm, Not sure. Go to the Copper Development Association's website and look around. Bet you can find it there. Here's a snip from one of their pages: Annealed copper tube also offers maximum ease of installation when a homeowner wants to add gas appliances or equipment, such as a gas fireplace. Copper fuel gas distribution systems are approved by national and international building and safety codes, including the National fuel gas Code, the International Mechanical Code and the International Plumbing Code. OT - OF!!! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Those look like Bubba brand gas logs. Purchased at the local big box store and plumbed with soft copper gas line. Let me guess? The line goes out the window to a LP bottle! Gotta love that Southern ingenuity. I would note them as a makeshift installation that should be considered unsafe. Then I would recommend that a licensed plumber should make the proper gas line connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 And what about bumps and knocks from kids, vacuums, etc.? How long before the compression fittings begin to leak? I have a sixteen-week-old German Shepherd who would love to wrap his jaws around that tubing and start yanking on it. Download Attachment: DSC04428b.jpg 239.58 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarga Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Is it just me or does Bain's puppy look like Kurt.[:-jester] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 "Is it just me or does Bain's puppy look like Kurt." That's quite a compliment Scott. I haven't known Kurt too long, but I've known many German Shepherds. Not only do they have the same country of origin, but share many characteristics: Superior intelligence, nobility, loyal bravery, incorruptible character, great working ability and an intelligent expression that commands attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focal Point Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Copper is not suitable for gas applications due to the additives (Hydrogen sulfide I believe) is added to the gas. the gas will pit the copper and eventually produce pinholes in the line. only a lined flex tube or black iron is acceptable. I always write this up. This may be a regional thing though...better safe than sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I disagree, Copper is used every day in lots of places to plumb gas lines. True, in some parts of the country the code bubbas and the trainers still prohibit it, but that's old school. Gas today is better refined and cleaner. It might be prohibited where you are but a blanket statement that it isn't suitable for a gas application would be an erroneous statement. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 My little guy displays all those characteristics, Bill. I had a girl Shepherd for eleven years and she was the love of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Mike is correct on the copper, it might not be allowed in your area but it is in others. As for Kurt and the Sheppard, I bet they would both bite you if you pulled one of their ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingfoot Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Copper is allowed in my area for gas, I was unsure of the use inside the fireplace and the routing of the tubing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Hmmmm, You know what? Scott's right, he does kinda look like Kurt. It's all in the eyes. Sorry Buddy. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Sorry, Mike? But why? My Loki is a good lookin' kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Hmmm, Have you noticed that they both have the same color fur? [:-bigmout Hah, I slay myself! (I'm real brave when I've got 2,000 miles between me and a potential bloody nose.) OT - OF!!! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Well, I don't have 2000 miles between me and he and he sometimes gets real close when at the michigan homestead, so let's get back to the topic. Hydrogen sulfide is never added to natural gas. It kills in seconds and I have seen it personally cause a death in approx 15seconds - period. A mercaptan is added, usually a juniper extract and yes it is corrosive. The real issue is the type of copper m,n,k,l etc and method of fastening. I have also personally seen copper gas lines crumble in my hand while under pressure - 4-6ozs while the gas was delivered to the meter at 80lbs on a 1/2" copper line with jacket. Yes it can and is used by many tradespeople in many places, but you can not make any blanket statement that it is or is not code compliant because of regional differences. I would write the condition shown in a minute! Does not make sense regardless of all the other fall du ral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Um, well. But back to the drifting filament. It's not only my dog . . . I, too, bear a faint resemblance to Kurt. Could it be? Cousin Kurt? Download Attachment: DSC_00381mg.jpg 192.58 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarga Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (I'm real brave when I've got 2,000 miles between me and a potential bloody nose.)[] You don't think I would have made that comment if I lived close to Kurt. Do you? The photo comparison was a nice touch. Well done. ROTFLMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Sorry Les, I'll try to behave. This, by the way, is my canine lookalike. I've gained almost all of my friggin weight back. Ha! Just noticed that my avatar is gunning down my alter ego. Talk about your conflicted personality! My apologies Wingfoot, but we've very rudely jacked you bigtime. Just for that, you're entitled to hijack threads from Bain and I one of these days. OT - OF!!! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm slow responding to this thread; I've been out chasing cars down the block, scratching fleas, and getting wormed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ah, the dog days of summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Originally posted by Bain Um, well. But back to the drifting filament. It's not only my dog . . . I, too, bear a faint resemblance to Kurt. Could it be? Cousin Kurt? What is it w/you Kentucky guys? You think everyone is your cousin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hey, my wife is from Hazard, KY! She can't help it if her family has a "Family Wreath" instead of a family tree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Sadly it's true. There are likely even some farm animals in the family wreath, which render the creation of seating charts for reunions ridiculously difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I'm glad to see my brother from Kentucky has a sense of humor. [:-bonc01] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingfoot Posted August 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by hausdok My apologies Wingfoot, but we've very rudely jacked you bigtime. Just for that, you're entitled to hijack threads from Bain and I one of these days. OT - OF!!! M. No problem, ya'll are cheap entertainment. We may even get two pages out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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