homnspector Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 Seems to me this aint quite right. The green arrow is the basement sink / shower vent. The red is the upstairs bath tub drain. The blue is the vent stack. Does this look kosher? Will the tub drain interfere with proper venting of the lower bath? Download Attachment: bdhshs.jpg 150.32 KB
mgbinspect Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 I'm with you Fritz. It kinda looks as if things could end up where they don't belong. Also, that's a big vent pipe for a sink and shower!
Chad Fabry Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 There will always be water in the green/ basement sink vent line. It'd work OK if the sweep tee were replaced with a tee and if there is adequate pitch on the green/ basement sink vent line. It'd be best if the vent line for the basement sink was joined above the shower drain. Currently, it's wrong.
mgbinspect Posted March 29, 2006 Report Posted March 29, 2006 That's kinda what I was thinking too, but don't know plumbing standards to that degree.
homnspector Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Posted March 30, 2006 Gracias Amigos, I have recommended installing the vent connection above the upstairs drains.
StevenT Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 I wouldn't want that in my house. But it is such an easy fix. Like Chad says, simply repipe the basement sink vent to tie in above the shower drain. But having seen this, what else is there?
hausdok Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 Uh guys? I agree that tying the basement vent in with a tee above the sanitary tee from the bathtub would be better, but didn't anyone notice the orientation of the sanitary tee to the right of the green arrow? It's upside down! OT - OF!!! M.
Jim Katen Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 Originally posted by hausdok Uh guys? I agree that tying the basement vent in with a tee above the sanitary tee from the bathtub would be better, but didn't anyone notice the orientation of the sanitary tee to the right of the green arrow? It's upside down! OT - OF!!! M. That's standard orientation for a vent tee. Water isn't supposed to flow through it and if you put it in the other way, the angle would be all wrong. The vent needs to tie in not only above the shower drain, but above the level of the shower's flood rim. - Jim Katen, Oregon
mgbinspect Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 Yeah, I noticed the upward sloped connection which is most of the reason I said it looks as if things could end up where they don't belong along with Jim's thinking. I think the whole configuration and pipe size choice screams of amatuer work.
hausdok Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 Hi Jim, I guess you're right. My bad. I suppose it might be the shadows and the coloring, but it looks to me like a sanitary tee, not a sweep tee, that's been flipped upside down. I thought there is a little flap of pipe extending into the that vertical leg in a sanitary tee that will capture water draining from above when it's installed with the "opening" downward. However, I just checked Mr. Cauldwell's "Remodel Plumbing" and he shows a sanitary tee flipped over on a vent configuration just like that and says it's OK. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
mgbinspect Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 Well, Mike, you're not alone. It was a part of my initial reaction too. It just looks like residual nastiness could end up dammed up in the vent pipe to me!
StevenT Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 I agree with tying in the vent above the flood line of the shower base, I also wonder if anything else is draining into that stack? If so, wouldn't you want to tie in the vent above the flood line of whatever else is there (sink, etc.)
Jim Morrison Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 So the answer to the original question is: It was installed improperly, but it will work.
mgbinspect Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 Apparently so, Jim and if Darren looks down this vent pipe from the roof it may smell a little worse than he's used to... [:-sour] [:-slaphap
kurt Posted March 30, 2006 Report Posted March 30, 2006 The basic rule is all fixtures (on the same drain/waste) have to be revented above the highest fixture.
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