Chad Fabry Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I left my NEC at the school, hopefully someone will chime in. 8AWG Green insulated wire serving as a current carrying conductor. The ends at the breaker have been taped with black tape to re-identify the green wire as a CCC. The two CCC's disappear into a conduit along with a green ground wire of the same size and type. I googled around and couldn't find anything that prohibits the practice. I don't like the way it's done and I think it adds an element of unnecessary danger to an already bad installation, but my statements need to be completely defensible. In other words, what I think doesn't matter. Click to Enlarge 41.26 KB Click to Enlarge 47.91 KB Click to Enlarge 52.26 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Only the white insulated wires can be re-identified as ungrounded conductors when part of a cable. Not permitted in conduit. Wires with green insulation can not be used for ungrounded or grounded conductors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Zip. Hard to believe. Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Only the white insulated wires can be re-identified as ungrounded conductors when part of a cable. Not permitted in conduit. Wires with green insulation can not be used for ungrounded or grounded conductors. Finally, 250.119 ...Conductors with insulation or individual covering that is green, green with one or more yellow stripes, or otherwise identified as permitted by this section shall not be used for ungrounded or grounded circuit conductors. Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thanks guys. Thanks for the cite, Marc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Port Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Also there is the section that conductors smaller than #4 are too small to reidentify. Wrong for two reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Also there is the section that conductors smaller than #4 are too small to reidentify. Wrong for two reasons. Wait..... We can't re-identify wires smaller than #4? Meaning, no branch circuit conductors? In conduit, yes, I know. We're all conduit here. But no re-identifying cable wires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Port Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Also there is the section that conductors smaller than #4 are too small to reidentify. Wrong for two reasons. Wait..... We can't re-identify wires smaller than #4? Meaning, no branch circuit conductors? In conduit, yes, I know. We're all conduit here. But no re-identifying cable wires? Only whites in a 240 circuit or as a hot in a switch loop when cable is used. If conduit or raceway is used they need to be the correct colors unless #4 or larger. #4 and larger are all black so tape or paint is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I see literally zero cable, so I'm not up on this. Thnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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