Les Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 I generally don't like to read about issues we all see every day. This was an exception. I was asked to dispute the inspector's finding that this is unsafe. Not! Click to Enlarge 39.33 KB Click to Enlarge 50.42 KB
Marc Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 wow! I had thought I had seen the worst. Marc
StevenT Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 It sure is steep! Looks like a staircase going to an attic. If that's the case, I would rather have this than a pull down ladder. Now if they are bedrooms up there and they are included in the bedroom count, I have a problem with it. Actually, I reconstructed a home that has a really large attic, rather than a pull down ladder, the only staircase I could fit is also quite steep. Mine even has a dormer that you can hit your head if you don't duck. Having said that, both of my sons use this area, it is great for storage, and if I ever decide to sell; I would never include the 2 rooms in the bedroom count. In my head, I would rather have the stairs than a ladder, but agree it should be included in the report.
gtblum Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 Now, you did it! You'll never work in this town again, Les! []
Tom Raymond Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 I'm gonna break ranks. I prefer steeper stairs. Not quite that steep, but steep. Those would be lots safer without the carpet.
Les Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Posted March 19, 2015 Three bedrooms and a bath up there! The treads were all different sizes; use my size 8 boot for reference. They were bitching about the inspector writing this as an access/egress issue. including smoke alarms, carbon monoxide, open end handrail, carpet, pitch, hole in wall, etc.
kurt Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 I kinda like it. It would test the occupants motor and cognitive skills....get people in tune with their environment. It's why we've gone soft. No challenges. Build a house where adaptive survival traits are valued, the result is a better nation.
tim5055 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 I kinda like it. It would test the occupants motor and cognitive skills....get people in tune with their environment. It's why we've gone soft. No challenges. Build a house where adaptive survival traits are valued, the result is a better nation. going up would work for me, but walking down them after an adult beverage or two may be a challenge. Folks sleeping up there should have up to date life/health insurance policies.
Scottpat Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 So Les, enquiring minds want to know?.. What was your opine?
hausdok Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Ships ladder, See 'em occasionally for attics, lofts in A-frames, access for kids to little built-in play rooms. Those things are not fat guy friendly, let me tell you. One slip and you go bouncy, bouncy, bouncy all the way down dragging your hands over your head on the handrails. Don't ask me how I know - it was humiliating. Did you pay them when you told them what they did not want to hear? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
John Dirks Jr Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 The railing looks really low too. Was it? Of coarse, with the steps that steep maybe the railing height error isn't noticed by the user.
Les Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 It passed the "FHA" appraiser inspection. They paid me. Inspector thanked me. Agent continues to hate me. Seller is sure I am a fool. Bank lost another govt loan. POTENTIAL BUYER is informed and happy! That is all that matters.
Steven Hockstein Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 At least there is not a window at the landing. Sometimes I see this situation and there is a window that someone can easily fall through.
John Kogel Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Only a moron would think there was any hope of approval for that mess. Good for you for taking some money from them. Financial loss will maybe smarten them up a bit. The money could have gone to designing a safe solution.
Welmoed Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 I did a house with a ship's ladder into a loft space. Got to the top and discovered that the only thing holding the ladder up was two drywall screws, one on each stringer. Yeah, I went back down VERY carefully. Click to Enlarge 11.68 KB Click to Enlarge 24.3 KB
kurt Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 Kinda like those pull down stair death traps, no fasteners.
gtblum Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 Kinda like those pull down stair death traps, no fasteners. And, no cables in the springs. Why?
palmettoinspect Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 It looks like in the first picture someone's head has already meet the wall at the landing lol!
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