gfield Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 1947 house. Saw this on this morning's inspection: runs to this: Possibly coincidental with adding the more-modern sub-panel, the person who did the wiring routed it over the existing weather head and through the mast shown. Have any of you seen wiring of this quality and type, and can this really be to code? As always, this beginner appreciates the help and continuing education from all who offer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Wider angle pictures might show more but I see three issues. 1. No drip loop at the splice. 2. The weather head should not be laying sideways. 3. Inadequate support for the service entrance cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is that a 'male 90' water pipe fitting at the lower left corner of the second photo? Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfield Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Wider angle pictures might show more but I see three issues. 1. No drip loop at the splice. 2. The weather head should not be laying sideways. 3. Inadequate support for the service entrance cable. I concur on all three defects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfield Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is that a 'male 90' water pipe fitting at the lower left corner of the second photo? Marc Yes, sir. That is what it appears to be. Honestly, this is the one major area of concern about the whole house. Everything else appears well-maintained and up to snuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 poco usually has no inspectors...if muni doesn't either it's the wild west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfield Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 To fix a failure on my side of the meter box (and concurrently to switch to 200-amp service) in my own home 5-6 years back, I did a bunch of wiring while being unhooked form the power, and the power company would not hook me back up until the city inspector approved the work. Fortunately, I did everything right and got it approved right away. This house is also city of Seattle, and I doubt this work got any approvals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 It might just be the picture, but it looks like those insulators are about to pull away from the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 ...now, thanks to Jim, I think I see that point of attachment was removed from prior wall cladding then stuck back onto new lap wood stuff...at the cost of the drip loop it used to include... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfield Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 It might just be the picture, but it looks like those insulators are about to pull away from the wall. They definitely are. there are only two fasteners, and both are pulling away from the siding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfield Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 ...now, thanks to Jim, I think I see that point of attachment was removed from prior wall cladding then stuck back onto new lap wood stuff...at the cost of the drip loop it used to include... IMO, it's difficult to say at what point the drip loop was sacrificed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNations Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Have any of you seen wiring of this quality and type, and can this really be to code? It's safe to say that we've all seen wiring of this lousy quality, and a lot worse. My advice: Don't ever look at something and say to yourself that it can't get any worse than this. Because it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 The original 1947 weatherhead is there, still in use but in a horizontal position. Yes, you are correct to call that mess out for immediate repair. I wouldn't bother with code rules for something like that. No intelligent person will deny that it is wrong and hazardous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjr6550 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Bracket is pulling off of house. Insulation may be deteriorated. Hard to say, but does not look like 100 amp SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfield Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks, gentlemen, for sharing your knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Davenport Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Wider angle pictures might show more but I see three issues. 1. No drip loop at the splice. 2. The weather head should not be laying sideways. 3. Inadequate support for the service entrance cable. Add this to the list : #4) service head should be attached above the point of attachment of the service drop or overhead service conductors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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