plummen Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 A friend of mine and his dingbat wife are trying to sell their old house they've been renting to a couple of her kids for around 4 years now. Anyway the place is pretty well trashed including the hvac system,so I gave his wife a bid for a new 90 plus furnace/coil/lineset/condenser and power vent water heater since the chimney was shot. I told her I could do it for $4500.00,she called me the next day saying a friend of one of the kids worked for an hvac shop and could do it for $3500.00. So today he calls me saying the guy was totally screwing the job up big time,Ill let the pictures do the talking.[:-censore Click to Enlarge 71.35 KB Click to Enlarge 68.6 KB Click to Enlarge 100.54 KB Click to Enlarge 97.79 KB Click to Enlarge 138.58 KB Feel free to tear this clowns work to pirces. I haven't met the idiot doing the work yet,but Im guessing he either drives a delivery truck or pushes a broom at the hvac shop he works for! Ive never seen a pvc flue pipe hanging 8' out of a house,5' into neighbors yard.Should there be a guy wire on it from the roof for support?[:-taped][:-censore
John Kogel Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 I guess the $1000 difference is coming out of the labor end of the deal?
Jim Katen Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 That's the beauty of a free market. Your dingbat friend is free to hire the cheapest slack jawed mouth breather (SJMB) that she can find. SJMB is free to pursue a trade for which he's entirely unqualified.The market eventually pushes SJMB out of business.SJMB then becomes free to pursue his next career. (SJMB Home Inspections?)
kurt Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 Yes, HI work figures into the path, aided and abetted by an amazing number of facilitators, all bent on selling the SJMB on proprietary systems and ancillary services.
mjr6550 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 I would thought that the materials cost would be more than $3500 (assuming he bought the equipment).
plummen Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Posted October 18, 2014 I can still get all the materials through the supply house for around $3200.00 and change,another other $700.00 would have paid for a helper to do the grunt work for me.I would have walked away with lunch money and gas out of the deal. I was going to do it strictly as a favor for him on my part,he owns a sewer and drain co and has given me lots of work back when I was still working. The guy who did the work is a total hack of the highest order. He asked me what it would cost for me to fix the mess,I told him $4500.00[:-party] Did you guys notice how he connected the old 3/8-5/8 lineset to the condenser that takes a 3/4-3/8 lineset? Im guessing the service valves are shot before its ever been started![:-censore
Marc Posted October 19, 2014 Report Posted October 19, 2014 I can still get all the materials through the supply house for around $3200.00 and change,another other $700.00 would have paid for a helper to do the grunt work for me.I would have walked away with lunch money and gas out of the deal. I was going to do it strictly as a favor for him on my part,he owns a sewer and drain co and has given me lots of work back when I was still working. The guy who did the work is a total hack of the highest order. He asked me what it would cost for me to fix the mess,I told him $4500.00[:-party] Did you guys notice how he connected the old 3/8-5/8 lineset to the condenser that takes a 3/4-3/8 lineset? Im guessing the service valves are shot before its ever been started![:-censore Yeah, I noticed Mr. SJMB crimped the vapor schrader to fit the undersized vapor line but I though the schrader was a 7/8 and the lineset a 3/4. I don't always strike that. Sometimes a 3 1/2 ton on a short 3/4 vapor line is ok, IMHO. Marc
plummen Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Posted October 19, 2014 If he would have used a reducing fitting instead of heating it up and smashing it I probably would of been ok with it.
Jim Baird Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 ...all of us have a dingbat somewhere within. I have to say, with all respect due, that some of the sloppiest work I have ever inspected has been in the HVAC field...no offense, just sayin'.
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