AbsoluteInspector Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 I am relatively new to home inspections but I am pretty sure this is a problem and wondering how others would write this up? There is insulation paper in contact with the HVAC combustion ventilation from the furnace, I know this paper is designed to be very ignition and combustion resistant but I am pretty sure there is a required clearance from the vent that applies to anything, however it looks as though it has been there for very long (50 year old home) and hasn't caught fire yet. I wrote it up as potential Asbestos paper (that couldn't be confirmed without laboratory testing) that is breaking clearance requirements from the HVAC combustion vent and is a potential fire hazard. Click to Enlarge 20.67 KB
Robert Jones Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 As I was told many years ago, it's been there for quite some time and nothing has happened. Leave it be. If it really is asbestos, it is pretty much fireproof, and then the concern comes when the facing has to be removed. The staining appears to be from previous leak(s) rather than heat.
John Kogel Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 So much as I respect Robert's judgement, I will say no that is not acceptable. As usual, opinions will vary. I would want to know why is it there? Has it really been up against the vent pipe for 50 years, or is it there because somebody was too ignorant to give the pipe proper clearance? How about they install a metal shield with a 2" air gap?
kurt Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 I see stuff like that in old dumps all the time. Asbestos paper used as a "fireshield" on ceilings, walls, or wherever. Personally, I don't think it's a significant problem, but what I think personally isn't what matters. I'd still write it as "asbestos paper, get a guy, remove/encapsulate, inadequate clearance to combustibles once removed, etc., etc.".
John Kogel Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 It was wrong from day 1. And it is easy to fix. I would call for professional removal of the suspected asbestos material. Then install a metal heatshield with as much pipe clearance as possible.
hoosier inspector Posted February 12, 2014 Report Posted February 12, 2014 It may be the angle of the pic, but is that dryer duct being used for a connector?
Chad Fabry Posted February 12, 2014 Report Posted February 12, 2014 A little off track and definitely self-promoting.... I own absoluteinspection.com Send me an email if you want to own it. chad@structuresmart.com
Brandon Whitmore Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Just in case..... I'm sure you're aware that there's a 1" clearance requirement for B vent, and 6" for A vent?
Eric B Posted March 19, 2014 Report Posted March 19, 2014 As I was told many years ago, it's been there for quite some time and nothing has happened. Leave it be. I can go along with that for many situations but not in this case. A combustible's ignition point can be lowered given time and exposure to high heat. Just because a lack of proper clearance has "worked" for 30 years doesn't mean it'll work for 31.
Hearthman Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 On a CAT I vent connector using single walled pipe, the clearance to combustibles is 6". This is a fire hazard. The fact it has not burned the house down yet just means they have been lucky. The combustibles will pyrolyze over time thus lowering their ignition temp. That tee is hacked together and improperly supported. You also do not appear to have the listed firestop. As an inspector, the Std. of Care would expect you to call out common hazards such as clearances to combustibles on HVAC venting. It is not an inspector's place to pass judgement on the veracity of a std. but simply whether the present conditions are suitable for habitation or do they present a hazard. Using the codes and stds, absolutely, this is a hazard and I'll bet a LOT more on an install like this. Any more pics?
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