John Dirks Jr Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 For houses that have asbestos cement siding shingles that are intact and in good shape, do you mention it to the client, put it in the report as informational, or both? I wrote this long winded informational boiler plate. How badly does it suck? The house has cement based siding shingles which are likely to contain asbestos as part of their makeup. The material is intact and very durable. If it's not tampered with or broken up there should be no health concerns. If you decide to remove and discard these shingles as part of home repairs or renovations, you'll need to hire a qualified contractor who is knowledgeable of the rules and regulations with regard to disposing of asbestos cement shingles. On the day of the inspection, the shingles were in serviceable condition and not considered to be a health concern to occupants.
Marc Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 For houses that have asbestos cement siding shingles that are intact and in good shape, do you mention it to the client, put it in the report as informational, or both? I wrote this long winded informational boiler plate. How badly does it suck? The house has cement based siding shingles which are likely to contain asbestos as part of their makeup. The material is intact and very durable. If it's not tampered with or broken up there should be no health concerns. If you decide to remove and discard these shingles as part of home repairs or renovations, you'll need to hire a qualified contractor who is knowledgeable of the rules and regulations with regard to disposing of asbestos cement shingles. On the day of the inspection, the shingles were in serviceable condition and not considered to be a health concern to occupants. A suggestion: The roof shingles are an old variety that likely contain asbestos fibers. As long as the shingles remain unbroken, the asbestos within them is rendered non-friable by the cement composition of the shingles and there's no hazard. If someday you decide to replace this roof covering, you'll need a contractor well-versed in the federal rules and regulations pertaining to the handling and disposition of asbestos containing materials. As far as I can determine, this roof covering is still in good condition. Marc
John Dirks Jr Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Posted September 11, 2013 Thanks Marc. Did you notice my comment was intended for siding shingles?
John Dirks Jr Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Posted September 11, 2013 Whoops! Marc I have not come across asbestos cement roof shingles yet.
Marc Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 Very common here on late 18th, early 19th century homes. Marc
AHI in AR Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 Very common here on late 18th, early 19th century homes. Marc 18th century? As in the 1700's? Maybe I'm wrong, but of all the time I've spent in New Orleans and surrounding areas I've never seen original shingles that contained asbestos on any homes older than the early 20th century.
Marc Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 Very common here on late 18th, early 19th century homes. Marc 18th century? As in the 1700's? Maybe I'm wrong, but of all the time I've spent in New Orleans and surrounding areas I've never seen original shingles that contained asbestos on any homes older than the early 20th century. Fellas. You've caught me wrong twice. It's late 19th, early 20th century. What's come over me? Back to John's OP. Marc
John Kogel Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 I'd never write 'you'll' muself. 'You will'. But 'I will not' [] If you decide to have these siding shingles removed, hire a qualified and knowledgeable contractor to remove and dispose of the shingles properly. Or 'in the proper manner according to present day regulations'.
hausdok Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 Around here the landfill allows you to discard up to a specific amount - I can't remember how much - of asbestos a week. They supply you with the yellow plastic bags with the red lettering on them. You remove the shingles from your house, stack them in the shed and then every week package up a batch up to the weight limit in the yellow bags and they'll pick it up and dump it in the landfill. No complicated contractor arrangements. OT - OF!!! M.
Jim Katen Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 The house has cement based siding shingles which are likely to contain asbestos as part of their makeup. The cement siding shingles probably contain asbestos. The material is intact and very durable. If it's not tampered with or broken up there should be no health concerns. As long as they remain intact, any asbestos that's in them will stay in them and not be released into the air. If you decide to remove and discard these shingles as part of home repairs or renovations, you'll need to hire a qualified contractor who is knowledgeable of the rules and regulations with regard to disposing of asbestos cement shingles. If you decide to remove them, hire licensed asbestos abatement contractor to do the work and dispose of them properly. On the day of the inspection, the shingles were in serviceable condition and not considered to be a health concern to occupants. I found XX cracked shingles today. The rest seem to be in good shape.
Charlie R Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 Since the composite shingles "may" or "probably" contain asbestos, I usually write to "have the shingles tested for asbestos content prior to disturbing." rather than just go to having the contractor do it. A lot of those shingles were made without asbestos. The fee for the test from an environmental testing lab is way less than paying the contractor. Charlie
Tom Raymond Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 Home owners can place them at the curb for pick up here. No special bags or tags needed. The last time I had to deal with them as a contractor I had to pay a $30 fee. I was told it was for the hazardous materials permit to transport the dumpster. That was over a decade ago. My brother is the supervisor on a major asbestos removal project. Once the pipe insulation has been removed he is more concerned about his lead exposure than he is about any other ACMs left on the project.
Robert Jones Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 ehhh. The pics aren't viewable(for me anyway).
Tom Raymond Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Me either. Must be John uploaded them before his tubes warmed up.
John Kogel Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 If Johnny can't fix it, nobody can. [] Click to Enlarge 47.08 KB Click to Enlarge 52.41 KB
John Kogel Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Some fresh pics here. Click to Enlarge 52.41 KB Click to Enlarge 54.3 KB Click to Enlarge 53.11 KB Thanks, Bill. I'll clean up my mess now.
Les Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Some fresh pics here. Click to Enlarge 53.11 KB wadda are we supposed to be looking at? - a ratty old peach tree branch?
John Kogel Posted September 18, 2013 Report Posted September 18, 2013 Some fresh pics here. Click to Enlarge 53.11 KB wadda are we supposed to be looking at? - a ratty old peach tree branch? I'm not an arborist. I suppose it could be a peach. []Most of us are looking at the fiber cement shingles. A prior owner patched the broken corners with white silicone caulking. The house is strong as the pyramids with a fireproof skin.
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