Intentional Omissions on NPMA33

[Neal Lewis]

My mother's house was inspected the other day. The buyer's inspector from P2P intentionally didn't fill out the section for Recommendation for Treatment. I contacted him and he said he never would indicate No Treatment Recommended on the form. He said it's a liability thing!!

This isn't the first time I've seen a home inspector leave this section blank. Does someone really think that by not filling out the form properly they limit their liabilty! I told him if your'e not confident in your WDI inspecting ability, leave it to someone else. Why do the inspection if you're not going to come to a conclusion.

I'm not sure if this is taught in the H.I. schools, or is a P2P thing.

This stuff really pisses me off; so friggin unprofessional!!

[Robert Jones]

Must be a lack of experience. I have filled out quite a few of those forms and always check No Treatment Recommended when warranted. I would think that the person would be more concerned with his lack of ability to provide a competent WDI report. That's where the liability will catch up to him/her one day.

[Les]

For what it is worth - Most of the actions, I get involved with,"against" home inspectors typically involve the "inspector" trying to limit liability. Usually it is an answer that can be heard as "I don't know - - - - - ".

Around here most inspectors don't do WDI work and leave it to licensed and registered folks.

PS: I stopped limiting my liability abt twenty years ago.

[Jim Katen]

The P2P inspector is a moron.

[kurt]

PS: I stopped limiting my liability abt twenty years ago.

Did you stop working? [:-angel]

[Les]

I just knew you or Katen would jab me on that!

Thank you! That is a nice reminder that we seldom "type" what we are really thinking.

[Neal Lewis]

Yup. Confirmed that the large owner of a Home inspector school in NJ is teaching guys to NOT check off No Treatment Recommended on the WDI form. Just leave it blank. And this will save your butt from liability...

[allseason]

How large is that owner? I have a pest app lic for WDI in NJ and I never leave that blank. It's one or the other, really. And the form is only valid for 90 days after the inspection.

[Jim Katen]

The school's owner is a moron.

[kurt]

yes

[Darren]

I wonder if it's the same owner who stood in front of a class of about 100 inspectors and, with a straight face declared a fan assisted furnace is considered a Cat III appliance and Cat III appliances are the most used appliance there is; all of this on his power-point presentation that was given out as part of the class.

[Neal Lewis]

Yup, Darren & Chris. I spoke with David and he says that not filling out a NO on the form will save you from liability. I asked him if he talked to anyone from the NJ Pest Management Association to confirm his recommendation. He said No. I told him straight out it's unprofessional.

I told him he's better off teaching his students that if they're not confident enough with WDI inspecting ability, to let a PCO do it.

[Inspectorjoe]

I wonder if it's the same owner who stood in front of a class of about 100 inspectors and, with a straight face declared a fan assisted furnace is considered a Cat III appliance and Cat III appliances are the most used appliance there is; all of this on his power-point presentation that was given out as part of the class.

Three days ago I walked out of a session he was 'teaching' at a conference in Atlantic City. I figured my time would be much better spent walking the boardwalk.

[Darren]

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Three days ago I walked out of a session he was 'teaching' at a conference in Atlantic City. I figured my time would be much better spent walking the boardwalk.

Yep; right after that class was over, I had to run to where Kenny Hart had the furnaces set up just make sure I was thinking clearly.

[Inspectorjoe]

I wish I knew you were there, Darren.

I know for sure I won't be going to a COA conference again.

[Darren]

I thought Kenny Hart & Joe Denneler were pretty good.

The one Wed late morning with Joe Denneler had 12 or so people in it; that blew my mind the fact he was going over state laws and past cases and only 12 or so people were interested.

[Inspectorjoe]

Oops, Risk Management Case Studies is one of the ones I blew off.

Kenny Hart is always good, as is Gerry Aubrey, but I've seen their presentations several times.

I wasn't going to go, but after I received a 20% discount code from America's Call Center, along with the $60 a night room rate, I figured it was too cheap to pass up. Of course, you get what you pay for. It was what I thought it would be - an extended pitch to a captive audience for COA Support and the Homeowners Network. It wasn't a total loss; at least I got to see this really cool light and sound show:

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