Brian G Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 Originally posted by Paul MacLean So when everyone leaves the site, I know I produced a nearly error free report and that the buyer understands. I do email reports to out-of-towner's and when specifically asked, but my real goal is to get home with nothing to do but log the inspection and file the report. I envy you there Paul. I don't mind frankly admitting that I still need the time I spend back back at the office sifting through the field notes and photos. There are times when all of the pieces of a particular puzzle don't fall into place until I'm bringing it all together in the report. I would call you a lucky dog, but I know one doesn't get to that point by luck. Brian G. "Luck Is the Residue of Hard Work"
Bain Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 Well, yeah . . . ditto to what Brian said. Sometimes the most effective, and least expensive, method of reporting is something like, "Man, this house is reeaaally f**ked up. You absolutely should not buy it."
Erby Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 Pretty book for the non-computer types. PDF for the literate. http://www.b4uclose.com/index_files/samplereport.htm I much prefer the PDF.
kurt Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 So, Erby, that's a pretty nice report. How much time/cost have you calculated in it's creation? It would take me a couple hours, at least.
BlackJack Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 The PDF format is the best and cuts file size down even when large pictures are attached. I can and do print on-site reports but I think it is more for my benefit than the clients because it takes less of my time. It makes for good marketing, yea I have it done right now ..... but I do a better report when at home and can manipulate the pictures zoom, crop, resize, and annotate better. I can add the my pool and spa requirements pdf and other safety and maintenance pdfs along with my contract and stack them all together into one password protected file pdf document. Sometime I find myself in the weeds using both ways and have to pull myself back to center. So doing both ways has its pros and cons. Same as with print versus email, whatever the client wants. I try for my clients to be flexible, but even that does not always work. After all isn’t the report where the rubber meets the road?
Brian G Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 Originally posted by Erby Pretty book for the non-computer types. PDF for the literate. *Sigh* Why are there so many people in the world who can't say "I like blue" without saying "There's something wrong with anyone who likes red"? Brian G. Baffled By the Mindset [:-boggled
Bach Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Posted July 29, 2005 I know from having another business in the past that time and materials really count up. If I don't need to spend extra time and materials great, I'll email. If I need to print out a report I will but I think it's going to just go into a clear binder the way Whisper gives it to you. I think most people know it's the information that's important not how something looks. I hope I'm right in assuming that.
Les Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 We all agree - it is what the client wants and report content. Brian, red is never the right color and I just know you are completely wrong and I don't know how you stay in business and I have telephathic skills that can see thru your boiler plate and kurt is certainly not serving his customers by all that electronic stuff and my way is the only way, etc..... Have a good week-end!
kurt Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 *Sigh*Why are there so many people in the world who can't say "I like blue" without saying "There something wrong with anyone who likes red"? Brian G. Baffled By the Mindset [:-boggled Because we're home inspectors!!!
Brian G Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 Originally posted by Les Brian, red is never the right color and I just know you are completely wrong and I don't know how you stay in business and I have telephathic skills that can see thru your boiler plate... Dammit! Well I put up a good front, but I can't fool a man with telepathic skills. And you just let me prattle along the whole time. You're a hard man Les. [] Brian G. Now Wearing a Foil-Lined Collander to Keep Les From Stealing My Thoughts! HA! [:-alien]
Brian G Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 Originally posted by kurt Because we're home inspectors!!! Then there's the fact that you and I are strange and slightly flawed individuals who would gladly debate the relative merits of various condiments on a hot dog for 2 or 3 pages, just for the fun of it (don't deny it, I can call witnesses). [:-mohawk] Brian G. Co-Founder of Debaters Anonymous [:-paperba
slinger2k Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 Bach, Email has been the way to go from the start (five years). You don't realize the hassle you avoid, the "opportunity" revenue you gain and the amount of time you have to spend elsewhere (turbo SNGs on Poker Stars for me). TIME = MONEY in our line of work (now that I think about it...everybody's line of work). Once the report is read, discussed and reviewed with their Realtor (sometimes "cut and pasted" onto the repair addendum - Microsoft Word is somewhat handy); it gets filed "away" and collects dust like those ASHI Reporter magazines we have. Step into the 21st century...electronic is the ONLY way to go.
kurt Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 Originally posted by Brian G. Then there's the fact that you and I are strange and slightly flawed individuals who would gladly debate the relative merits of various condiments on a hot dog for 2 or 3 pages.[/color] [:-mohawk] Brian G. Co-Founder of Debaters Anonymous[/navy] [:-paperba There's only one decent dog, & that is Chicago style, on a poppy seed bun, pickle, hot peppers, tomatoes, & a dash of CELERY SALT, DAMMIT. Anything less is unacceptable.
Bach Posted July 30, 2005 Author Report Posted July 30, 2005 now lets talk about what the dog is made of......[:-crazy]
Erby Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 materials $2.70 Labor $45.00 -- -- -- -- -- Total $47.70
Brian G Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 Originally posted by kurt There's only one decent dog, & that is Chicago style, on a poppy seed bun, pickle, hot peppers, tomatoes, & a dash of CELERY SALT, DAMMIT. Anything less is unacceptable. Heathern! Any civilized person would know that the superior dog is the plumping Southern red dog, on tasty-toasted white, dills, mustard, and AMERICAN CHEESE, DAMMIT. We don't need no stinking poppy seed! To garnish otherwise is the act of a commie-pinko rat! Brian G. So There! [^]
Darren Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 Gentleman; Growing up I had a hot-dog truck parked about 3 blocks away from my house...Cousin Ben's..too many choices to name. I know it sounds kinda funny, but if your in the mood for a treat try my favorite. Spicy brown mustard Tuna fish (yes, tune fish) Raw onions topped with potato chips Andreas tuna was the name, had 2 a day about 3 days a week for years, Try it, you won't be disappointed. Darren (oh the memories)
Erby Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 See this post. https://inspectorsjournal.com/forum/top ... IC_ID=2065 When Chris thinks about that inspection a few weeks, months, or years from now, he won't be thinking about what she said, or knew, but what she looked like. Whether it is a PDF or in the binder, in a few weeks or months, the customers and real estate agents won't be thinking about what's in the binder or the words in the report, but how it looked and the presentation. I know a lot of us say it's what's on the inside that counts, and maybe when we're old and gray it'll be true, but for now most of us remember the packaging, not what she said. Of course some of us are already old and gray. I Go with style and substance. Either way, I win. Think about your own preferences for flashy cars, flashy women, flashy tools. You may think about the substance but it's the flash that you remember. Of course, Jimmy Soul thinks of it a little different than some others: If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you A pretty woman makes her husband look small And very often causes his downfall As soon as he married her and then she starts To do the things that will break his heart But if you make an ugly woman your wife A-you'll be happy for the rest of your life An ug-a-ly woman cooks meals on time And she'll always give you peace of mind If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you Sax solo Don't let your friends say you have no taste Go ahead and marry anyway Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match Take it from me, she's a better catch If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you Spoken: Say man! Hey baby! I saw your wife the other day! Yeah? Yeah, an' she's ug-leeee! Yeah, she's ugly, but she sure can cook, baby! Yeah, alright! If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you
Brian G Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 Yo Erby. The scrum is over. Both teams are sitting down to hotdogs and joking about the little bumps and bruises. Let it go. Please. Brian G. I Came, I Saw, I Scrummed...Pass the Mustard [:-toast]
Garcha Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 E-mail is the most convenient, cheapest and user friendly format for most of my clients in the Cincinnati area. It makes some of them feel like I'm on top of technology and that has as much value as a fancy report...in my market. I do have clients who ask for a written report and in those cases I will hand deliver them anywhere they like. When they get them they are professional and crisp.Out of the last 50 inspections I have actually printed out 3 for client use. The type of report has nothing to do with the quality of inspection on a professional level but presentation is everything...I do my best and then give them what they want. Doesn't everyone?
homnspector Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Trouble is, the information the client needs to make a decision is usually far different from the information required by state or ASHI standards. When you ge right down to it, most of the report is designed to satisfy the standards rather than inform the client. Most clients really dont want to read 30 pages of things that are operational or "serviceable" but we (in AZ) have to report on the condition. It gets a little ridiculous actually, for instance we have to report on skylights whether or not they are present.
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