What are these called? (splices)

[Brandon Whitmore]

I haven't run into these splice devices for a while, and can't remember what they are called.

I need to look them up and find out if they are an acceptable repair for AL. branch circuit wiring.

Anybody?

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[Bill Kibbel]

Push wire connectors (Ideal In-Sure is one brand).

I'd be very surprised if any are listed for use with AL.

[Brandon Whitmore]

Thanks Bill,

Gives me something to go on.....

Ideal doesn't allow the use of aluminum conductors, but these push in connectors were made by someone else. Unfortunately, there weren't any markings on them that gave a manuf. or model.

What's odd is that one side of the duplex had all push in connectors at outlets, in the panel, etc. while the other side of the duplex was all untouched from original.

[Jim Port]

Wago and Ideal are the two big names in the push-in style of connector.

[MPdesign]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it was my understanding that taps cannot be made within a panelboard enclusure - meaning that this is illegal.

I, personally, think it is safe in this instance because there is plenty of room; but it is illegal by my understanding.

[Jim Katen]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it was my understanding that taps cannot be made within a panelboard enclusure - meaning that this is illegal.

I, personally, think it is safe in this instance because there is plenty of room; but it is illegal by my understanding.

It's fine to make taps or splices in a panelboard enclosure.

If you think it isn't, please provide the code section that prohibits it.

[Marc]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it was my understanding that taps cannot be made within a panelboard enclusure - meaning that this is illegal.

I, personally, think it is safe in this instance because there is plenty of room; but it is illegal by my understanding.

You might be thinking of taps on the SE conductors which need to be in a gutter.

Marc

[Jim Port]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it was my understanding that taps cannot be made within a panelboard enclusure - meaning that this is illegal.

I, personally, think it is safe in this instance because there is plenty of room; but it is illegal by my understanding.

Article 312.8 addresses splices in panels and says they are fine under certain fill percentages.

The CEC in Canada does not allow splices in the panel

[Norcal]

If the connectors are being used to pigtail AL to copper, there is a issue, most connectors were changed to CU to CU conductors only, there is plenty of space in the loadcenter for the splices so no problem w/ splices being there.

[Rob Amaral]

Is that the Alumi Con connector system? The photo is a bit 'afar'.. ?

[Brandon Whitmore]

Definitely not the alumi-conn connectors (picture in link below). They were standard push wire connectors with no screws. I've got close up shots of the connectors I found if anyone is interested......

http://www.kinginnovation.com/pdfs/CPSC ... No.516.pdf