kimball gray Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 I just came back from a home in the country that was built in 2009. It is on a well system and sulphur water(rotten eggs) is very noticeable when running water. The problem is that I could not find ANY vents under cabinets, in the attic space or above the roof. NONE. The buyer who has built homes says that he was told that sometimes plumbing vents are placed in the walls. None of the plumbing traps get sucked dry or gurgle. The toilets remain wet. The only fault I found was that the Jetted tub drains super slow. The home is on an aerator septic system....Any one experience this and how do you proceed with writing it up? Code violation? You all have been great with help in the past and I am so glad that I found this site a few years ago...
AHI in AR Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 NO vents at all? That's wrong, no matter how you slice it. Someone telling you that vents are "sometimes placed in walls" is ludicrous. No visible vents or even AAV's equals an improperly vented system -- even if you didn't notice operational problems. Oh yeah, the sulfur smell has nothing to do with the lack of venting.
Ben H Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Did the water heater have Muni sticker on it? I had a home last year that was way out in the country, and it's all kinds of goofy like you are explaining. I still think the place was built by some buddies and paid in beer.
Robert Jones Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Yeah was gonna say the sulfur smell is more than likely the water heater. No AAV's(air admittance valve)under the sink(s)?
kimball gray Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Posted October 7, 2011 No AAV's anywhere that I could find. The sulphur smell is common in this part of the country when it comes to well water. I just added that in after seeing another post I saw from last month. Rotten eggs around here says sulphur water in your well. Yep, I had never heard of vents inside the walls either. I am going to recommend that AAV's be placed at each trap in the home. Will that be sufficeint? Do you have to have one vent going to the attic or above the roof?
Mike Lamb Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 IRC SECTION P3102 VENT STACKS AND STACK VENTS P3102.1 Required vent extension. The vent system serving each building drain shall have at least one vent pipe that extends to the outdoors. Wall venting is allowed if it meets certain requirements.
AHI in AR Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 IRC SECTION P3102 VENT STACKS AND STACK VENTS P3102.1 Required vent extension. The vent system serving each building drain shall have at least one vent pipe that extends to the outdoors. Wall venting is allowed if it meets certain requirements. I understand the code reference to mean that AAV's may be allowed IF there is at least one vent to the exterior. But "wall vents" are something I don't understand -- it sounds like a vent that opens to/discharges into a wall. Am I missing something? The OP stated that there were NO visible vents -- AAV's, above the roof, or otherwise.
Mike Lamb Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Sorry. By wall venting I didn't mean in-wall venting but through-wall venting. Around here everything I see is through the roof.
John Kogel Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 My dad bought a place with no indoor plumbing in 1956. He got a septic tank in, and dug the drain field by hand. I helped a bit. He did the plumbing himself and cut the holes for a vent stack, but he never got around to hooking one up. It's a real shallow crawlspace there, under the bathroom. Nothing bad happened. My sister bought the place and they got around to venting the bathroom drains in the 80's. 2009, different story. There should be plans somewhere that show the plumbing layout.
Jim Katen Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 I just came back from a home in the country that was built in 2009. It is on a well system and sulphur water(rotten eggs) is very noticeable when running water. The problem is that I could not find ANY vents under cabinets, in the attic space or above the roof. NONE. The buyer who has built homes says that he was told that sometimes plumbing vents are placed in the walls. None of the plumbing traps get sucked dry or gurgle. The toilets remain wet. The only fault I found was that the Jetted tub drains super slow. The home is on an aerator septic system....Any one experience this and how do you proceed with writing it up? Code violation? You all have been great with help in the past and I am so glad that I found this site a few years ago... It's wrong and it's dangerous. Tell them to get a plumber in there to reveiw the entire plumbing system and, at a bare minimum, ensure that every fixture is properly vented.
Erby Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 C'mon now. Venting? What next? You gonna call for a grounding system too! Click to Enlarge 50.38 KB [:-monkeyd[:-monkeyd[:-monkeyd -
Bain Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 C'mon now. Venting? What next? You gonna call for a grounding system too! Click to Enlarge 50.38 KB [:-monkeyd[:-monkeyd[:-monkeyd - I'm almost certain I looked at that same house for some people who walked.
John Kogel Posted October 10, 2011 Report Posted October 10, 2011 They put the vent up by the window for the folks that ain't used to using indoor plumbing, yep, this is where you go now. [] Can't upload a pic.[:-thumbd]
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