Bill Kibbel Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 an Episcopal church was formed by a group that came from Wales and settled in the Pennsylvania colony. They built a stone church on the top of a hill in the "Welsh Tract". Click to Enlarge 45.19 KB Click to Enlarge 49.69 KB My supervisors today: Click to Enlarge 68.85 KB
John Kogel Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Hello Bill. Is there a vaulted ceiling in the main hall? Sorry, can't think of the church term for the main room. The roof has a pretty good sway to it. Are the walls bowed out at all? PS, sheep keep the grass nice and short. I'm sure the Welsh spirits would approve.
Bill Kibbel Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Hello Bill. Is there a vaulted ceiling in the main hall? Sorry, can't think of the church term for the main room. The roof has a pretty good sway to it. Are the walls bowed out at all? You got it! Here's the hand-forged nuts on the ends of the 3 tie-rods:Click to Enlarge 59.3 KB The rods were installed in the mid 1800s. Click to Enlarge 25.85 KB Most old churches, unless there are flying buttresses, have leaning, sweeping or bulging walls. Click to Enlarge 69.66 KB
AHI in AR Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Hello Bill. Is there a vaulted ceiling in the main hall? Sorry, can't think of the church term for the main room... nave
John Kogel Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Hello Bill. Is there a vaulted ceiling in the main hall? Sorry, can't think of the church term for the main room... nave Thank you, sir. Thanks, Bill. We pray the nuts and rods can handle the task for a few more years.
Tom Raymond Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 They're a far more graceful solution than that last image.
Neal Lewis Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 Ex NJ Gov McGreevy was rejected in his bid to become an Episcopal minister. Maybe he should hang with those sheep instead. Bill, what would be the difference between a bulging and sweeping wall? Sounds like a good inspection term I never heard of before.
Inspectorjoe Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 Bill: Did they ever come up with a permanent fix for the Old Dutch Church? I first saw that temporary brace in 2004. I went back in 2006 to see what permanent solution they came up with, only to find that not a thing had changed. Maybe it's still that way. I've got to think the people whose ancestors are buried in the graves that are anchoring the buttress beams aren't too happy about it. Click to Enlarge 62.73 KB
hausdok Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 Well, I should imagine that lying there for eternity with those big heavy footers bearing down on top of you, when you don't even have enough room to roll over onto your side has to be pretty uncomfortable for the folks sleeping below. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
gtblum Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 Well, I should imagine that lying there for eternity with those big heavy footers bearing down on top of you, when you don't even have enough room to roll over onto your side has to be pretty uncomfortable for the folks sleeping below. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Yeah, but on the other hand, those folks are still supporting their church.
mgbinspect Posted May 2, 2011 Report Posted May 2, 2011 Well, I should imagine that lying there for eternity with those big heavy footers bearing down on top of you, when you don't even have enough room to roll over onto your side has to be pretty uncomfortable for the folks sleeping below. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike But, what better way to uphold the church? [:-tophat]
Bill Kibbel Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Posted May 2, 2011 Bill, what would be the difference between a bulging and sweeping wall? Sounds like a good inspection term I never heard of before. Bulging is a term used for a wall that is bowed from top to bottom. This would be most obvious when looking along the wall. Sweeping is a term used for bowing from corner to corner. This would be most visible when standing on the edge of the roof looking down the wall Click to Enlarge 13.16 KB Shortly after I turned 40, my abdomen has had some bulging and sweeping. I don't think installing tie-rods will fix it.
Bill Kibbel Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Posted May 2, 2011 Bill: Did they ever come up with a permanent fix for the Old Dutch Church? I first saw that temporary brace in 2004. I went back in 2006 to see what permanent solution they came up with, only to find that not a thing had changed. Maybe it's still that way. The design and bid selection has been completed. Late in 2010, I heard that the federal grant money was to be released in early 2011. There was also some fund raising to be continued to fill the gap not covered by the grant. The expense is for repairs and neglected maintenance that goes beyond just reinforcing the wall.
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