John Dirks Jr Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 I know there can be problems with vaulted ceilings with regard to poor or no ventilation. How do you treat these things differently during an inspection? Where is the most common place to find conclusive evidence of problems?
Jerry Simon Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 I know there can be problems with vaulted ceilings with regard to poor or no ventilation. Where is the most common place to find conclusive evidence of problems? On the roof, as your foot protrudes through the drywall below. Look for and report obvious lack of ventilation, and feel for soft spots in the roof decking. In case you've never seen this, it makes for a good read: Download Attachment: HotRoofCold Roof.pdf 331.47 KB
John Dirks Jr Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 OK, Its a walkable roof so I'll be sure to go up on it. I'll look for soft spots but I hope my foot doesn't go through. [:-bigeyes
Brandon Whitmore Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Besides feeling for obvious rot/ deterioration to the sheathing...Look through eave vents (if possible) and ensure you can see an air space between the insulation and sheathing.
John Dirks Jr Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 This place may not have vents at the eaves. There is not much overhang. I do see a ridge vent but that could have been put on any time. 1996 construction. If there are no vents at the eaves but a ridge vent, what are the implications? Click to Enlarge 64.33 KB
John Kogel Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 That's newer construction. I'll bet there is soffit venting disguised into that trim. There are plans somewhere that will show the attic details. If the vaulted ceiling has problems, you should be able to see some anomalies in the drywall. Check the lower edges with a moisture meter. Shine a light across the surface of the ceiling to see if the drywall is sagging between the rafters.
hausdok Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Could be scissor trusses. Look for an attic access anyway. If so, they're a bitch to get through but I often find the insulation above the ceilings isn't even near touching the ceilings. Be careful you don't slip down into the lower space; it's an even worse bitch to extricate yourself from there. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike
Rocon Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 It also appears in your photo that there could be ridge venting inplace.
John Dirks Jr Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 It had soffit vents and baffles and ridge vent which is good. It had incorrectly spaced metric shingles which is bad. Each picture is a different error. I'm sure I could have found many more if I felt like spending enough time up there. Click to Enlarge 61.27 KB Click to Enlarge 84.39 KB Click to Enlarge 64.92 KB Click to Enlarge 67.77 KB Click to Enlarge 72.32 KB Here's the baffle that could be seen by lifting the shingles at the eave. Click to Enlarge 24.68 KB
Ben H Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 I looked at a 850,000.00 house the other day that had the "bonus" room above the garage finished. The two attic access in the garage showed clearly on the back side of the finished wall the insulation that was installed between the roof sheeting and drywall. No gap at all. My point is John, you can clearly see the baffles installed, but could you confirm they didn't stuff the ceiling.
Brandon Whitmore Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 That's a new enough place; I'm surprised there's not ice and water shield installed at the eaves.
John Kogel Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 That's a new enough place; I'm surprised there's not ice and water shield installed at the eaves. Well, judging from the shingle installation, no surprise at all. Maybe not required in Maryland? Even if it was, nobody checked that roof job. It should all be torn off and done right. And I think that's a whole complex worth of roofs they've got there. Ouch!
Tom Raymond Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 I'd wager there'll be issues at all the standing seam roofs too, right where they slam into the rowlocks[:-banghea
John Dirks Jr Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 I'd wager there'll be issues at all the standing seam roofs too, right where they slam into the rowlocks[:-banghea I wrote that up too, along with no pitch on the sill rowlocks, no weeps or flashings, no deck ledger flashing, rotting under slider doors from lack of flashing under thresholds...etc.
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