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I and some others left ASHI because of branding to Realtors vs home buyers. Now I see this. Has ASHI changed its collective mind or is it something else? http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjourn ... einsp.html Captain

Most well systems down here have a direct tap that does not go through the filtering or pressure tank. Does this system have that and did you test it that way? Captain

Brain G Some home inspectors do not get paid if the deal goes south. Captain

Mark Hogwash, tell me the facts if you can. Tell me about brinks, tell me about relationships with Realtors, tell me about the financial, tell me about the minutes, tell me about home link, tell me about concierge and I'll listen. And please do not get in the gutter and do not insult me. I believe you are honest but I also believe that you are blinded by your unyielding love for ASHI. Captain

Mark wrote Hogwash. Any member can attend any meeting of the Board, or other meetings for that matter. Captain hopefully got the right name replies: When I talk about transparent and secretive I mean. There are no minutes of the board and various committees on the web site or the reporter. There are no financial reports on the web or the reported except one. I don't know the hierarchy of ASHI but I have read on the forum that members have been denied access to meeting and that a secrecy agreement has to be signed. Mark wrote Hogwash again. ASHI is the ONLY organization that has a staff position devoted to chasing down violators. But as you know, that kind of stuff is just about impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. But at least ASHI has tried. Captain responds: And how is the membership going to believe this when there is no record for the membership to decide. When the ethics committee says that something like brinks program is not ethical and is against our ethic yet the program continues within ASHI members. Mark wrote Hogwash in reply to my comment that our client has become the Realtor due to marketing. Well if ASHI is marketing mainly in branding to the Realtor than that in my opinion means that person (Realtor)is my client. Mark wrote No, one person was kicked off the forum for bad behavior. Believe me, there is still plenty of questioning that goes on there. Captain says: Yes in technical issues but when it comes to nontechnical issues barely a whimper is heard in opposition. Mark continued Your choice, of course. And I can respect that. But please don't go trashing ASHI or its members by saying things that are not true. Captain replies I am in no way trashing ASHI and for you to take it that way is dead wrong. I'm telling anyone reading this that there are a number of things that caused me to leave. Branding Secrecy Non enforcement Censorship on the Forum You have no idea how hard it was for me or others like me to leave. I left in hopes that ASHI may reevaluate itself as to what it is doing. And for you to say I'm trashing ASHI only means that I did the right thing by leaving. xxxxx 000000 Captain

Norm To refresh your mind, here is a quote from something Joe B. wrote on another forum. "FLORIDA LICENSING UPDATE - Florida Home Inspector licensing is officially dead for another year, the Florida senate adjourned for the year without taking action. The bill was poorly written, biased, was a barrier to free trade and never had a chance of becoming law. Now is the time to begin organizing for next year when the same old tired group of inspection wizards will attempt to get laws passed that will insure their continuation while forcing honest hard working tax-payers out of business. Mark my word the inspection-Gestapo will return with more junk legislation, you will know them by their fruits. On the other hand, NACHI is working closely with legislators here in Florida and will continue to monitor licensing news as it happens. By this time next year there will be 10 or more local NACHI chapters in Florida to make sure that when licensing comes it will be fair to each and every home inspection business currently performing inspections in Florida. Joe Burkeson, President SouthShore NACHI"

Don The torque on start up alone would concern me. It needs to be on a pad. As to the bonding, I think it should be grounded not bonded. Captain

Chris I'm sure it was Scott that was insulted and not you. Then again I just not sure.[:-dev3] Captain I need my meds [:-banghead]

I do apologize to both of you Scott and Chris. But it does show us that one person is astute. That is what happens when you get home from an inspection and your head is still spinning. Again I do apologize Captain confused

In order for me to respond properly I have to do the old fashion way, thought by thought. As to my preamble, this is with respect and my opinions based on my knowledge in my market. Chris wrote: Allow me to return this thread to the ASHI discussion that started it. Captain responds: no problem Chris wrote: ASHI is a nation wide organization but it's exposure is not the same nation wide. That is why they started branding. Captain responds: I have been told branding was started because of the fact that 50% of the states have some form of licensing. In order for ASHI to be/stay important this branding strategy was developed. Chris wrote: The ASHI presence is not the same in Fort Worth TX. and Phoenix, AZ. Captain responds: I take your word for that Here in the Phoenix metro area one of the first questions a Realtor will ask is, are an ASHI member. If you are not in ASHI they don't refer you. Captain responds: Again I take your word for that. In my market in seven years ASHI has been brought up less that once a year. Chris wrote: ASHI is a great place to receive technical knowledge and has been for years. Captain responds: I’m not sure how you receive technical knowledge from ASHI The Reporter, the forum, local chapter, or inspection world. Chris wrote: Only recently did ASHI put a big emphasis on marketing. Marketing has always taken a back seat to the training. (In my opinion that is how it should be) Captain responds: Absolutely correct sir. Chris wrote: Only someone who does not look at the whole picture would make general statements like "$750 is to much to belong to an organization for a web link." Captain responds: Absolutely correct sir. Chris wrote: If that was all there was to it that would be true, however, ASHI has allowed me to meet some of the best inspectors in the country and develop relationships with them. I am not afraid or embarrassed to call Doug, or Kurt and say "I haven't seen this before, do you know what is wrong?" Captain responds: If you are starting out in this industry I would suggest you join a home inspector organization that has a local chapter that is available to you. Chris wrote: TIJ now has a large enough base that it may rival ASHI's board and it is allot more relaxed here, however TIJ does not have "Inspection World" available for additional training and an opportunity to meet other fine Inspectors face to face. ASHI has taught me that while I may be a great inspector in my area I am not knowledgeable in all aspects of construction across the country. For example; an old house here is something built before 1960. We have very few basements, or crawl spaces. we run our plumbing 12 inches below the ground and through the attic in many houses... Captain responds: Inspection world is open to anyone who wants to attend. You don’t have to belong to ASHI to go. Chris wrote: ASHI and any organization is only as good as the people involved in it. If you expect to join the local chamber of commerce and instantly get referrals from it, good luck, If you get involved and participate it can become a great source of referrals. Captain responds: I have found that weather it is another inspector or a member of a chamber it takes time. Chris wrote: I met with Nick from NACHI the other day, He told a group of people that ASHI is about education and NACHI is about marketing. Captain responds: No comment. Chris wrote: Basically that is true. Both organizations have some education and marketing but overall one does more than the other in each area. That does not make one better than the other. It may make one more attractive to an individual than another, because that is what they need. Captain responds: When you start out in this business you need to communicate with other inspectors that have been around for awhile. Chris wrote: It may be that you are so blessed that you don't need the assistance of any organization, if that is the case you should thank what ever God it is that you worship. Captain responds: No one is that blessed. You need people that have been there and done it. Chris wrote: These personal attacks do not benefit anyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however before you post it for the rest of the world to see, ask yourself; Captain responds: It seems to always come down to that with certain people. Chris wrote: Why am I posting this? Captain responds: For another point of view. Chris wrote: Is this fact or my opinion? (There is a difference) Captain responds:Both Chris wrote: Is the person I am responding to in a similar market or geographic region? Captain responds: I don’t know. Chris wrote: I used to post 4-10 messages a day, now I ask myself these questions and I post 4-10 a week. Captain responds: About the same or less ASHI has not changed in many of the areas that I hope it would. It is run very secretively. It is not transparent. Members are not following the standards or ethics and nothing was being done. Our client became the realtor and not the buyer. The forum was reined in to form a group mentality of passive non question group. I did not join ASHI for marketing and when they turned their guns to marketing, I knew it wasn’t for me any longer. However if you are new to this industry you can only learn so much from these forums. Go to and join a local chapter. And after a number of years you can evaluate if you want to stay or go. BTW my business is up a little since I left. Wasn’t that the original question? Captain

Who Is Joe B.? Joe B. joined ashi up in Tampa and found out to be a member he needed 250 inspections. However he would not be listed until he did 250 inspections and passed all the other stuff. Well he wanted to do inspection for I think $99 or $1 to get listed. Then he realized ashi was not for him so he joined another HI org. He kept bitching about ashi on the boards and then came the HI bill in fl. Well he thought it was unfair that you had to be in business for three years and have 250 inspections to be grandfathered. Well he just was pissed and felt is was an ashi conspiracy. There is more but it ain't worth it. Captain

Norm In a way it's kinda sad that the bill didn't pass. I bet crazy Joe B. is happy. Then again I emailed every legislator about my pet peeve in the bill and I got two responses. I guess that alone tells you something. Captain [:-banghead]

The reason for the increase for ASHI members is, that the candidates are no longer listed in the find an inspector. That blew away 50% of the competition. Captain

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Scott Are you talking about the southern women from south america, then I agree. Captain

I hope I am not being rude, but it does have to do with the "marketing program". I left ASHI and Gulfstream ASHI because of the marketing program. And I know two others who left ASHI because of the marketing program. They are still members of Gulfstream whatever. As to being rude when you came to visit our chapter I'm sorry but I don't remember that happening. And there are only two people that I think would be rude and they were not. Why would you bring up an incident that happened long ago, that no one would remember, and put doubt into the readers mind as to the legitimacy of the chapters actions? Captain

Jim I left Gulfstream in November and the last correspondence I had was Monday and change was afoot. Their monthly meeting was last night. I spoke to Norm last week and he is still a member and I sure he will tell all. Captain