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That's it! Back off or put up your dukes. I wont, I say I wont tolerate any interloping.

Ellen, You are the most beautiful, thin avatar that I have ever laid eyes on. If it were not for that big lug Ron, I would send you candy. But Anthony has left the building. He went with me on an inspection a few weeks ago. We also met for lunch and talked once. I have not heard from him since. (No I did not bite his head off) Frankly, I think he is too honest and too knowledgeable to get off to a quick start in the HI business. He use to build US Embassy buildings all over the world for (I think) General Dynamics. He is no slouch and I doubt that he will ever step foot into a brokers office for any other reason than to buy a house. Just thought you should know how I feel about you and I threw Tony in as a little diversion for Ron. George

Bryan, You make a good point. Here in Michigan the vast majority of our air handling and distribution systems are installed in basement areas (conditioned space). That removes a lot if issues and sizing problems found in attic installations. If it adds fewer problems than it solves, it may be worth a good look. George

Insulating the under side of shingles would certainly shorten their life. Would it void any factory warranty? George

Why Dennis, What ever fore is the matter with you? He is right, I tried it. I even combined the two suggestions. I am now booked solid for the next 6 1/2 weeks with free inspections where I will hand over a $10 bill on each. I can even see myself getting to the place where I can work evenings, weekends and holidays. That is until I run out of $10 bills. You have got to get with the times man. Wise up. George

Bryan, I used foam insulation when I built my last house. The R-value is superior and the skin it forms acted like a vapor barrier. I didn't even try to insulate any ductwork (basement) The only problem is being careful around window and door framing. The directions are clear, and I did pretty well except on my garage back entrance door. I put in too much and warped the door frame enough that it closes very hard. Gloves, old clothes, old shoes and eye protection are a must. This crap is STICKY George

Bryan, Welcome. Hope you have a speedy recovery. You have come to the right place, when you get too old to service HVAC, you will know all about home inspections. George

Kurt, OK ... 1/64 civil, but unlike popular opinion, nobody is all bad. George

If anyone is interested, I have an extra aluminum helmet. If that embarrasses you, you can do like I do when my wife hides my helmets, use a 5 quart sauce pan. It seems to work pretty well. In fact I am wearing one right now. George

Rob, Sometimes you just got to love these people. If the buyer, seller, selling agent and listing agent were all there with me, I think I would have called for a group hug. George

Tell us something about yourself. Fill out your profile. We are like family here, we bicker, but we will all do anything to help out a guy we just called a bone head when he needs it. We also have a few very lovely ladies here too so we have to be 1/2 civil. As anyone can tell you, I am 1/2 civil. George

As was already mentioned, "temperature" is the measurement of heat. As Jerry said, there is really no such thing as cold, only the absence of heat. Heat is molecular activity or movement. The faster the molecules in any substance are moving, the warmer the substance is. All molecular activity stops at -460 degrees below zero F. That is called absolute zero. It is hard to hold an ice cube in your hand and think that there is heat in it, but there is. I don't know if anyone even cares about temperature, but when I saw the question on another site, a ton of interesting (to me) things came flooding back from my old teaching days. Sorry, I will try not to indulge myself like this too much here. George

Pretty much as I expected. 1.Chad has more information than I can possible wade through much less digest. 2.Bill has the answer, but it so far over my head, I tip over backwards looking up at it. He also makes me envious of that Alabama climate. Since he never sees cold weather, he thinks heat pumps work in 0 degrees F. 3.Mike is rightfully impressed by Bills impressive knowledge. 4.Mitchell takes a couple more swigs, and sums it all up in 6 words. And 5. Hubert hasn't seen the ball since the kick off.

Much better, thanks. Do you have a name? George

I just visited a new (to me) HVAC site. One page heading asked "What is Temperature". It then goes on to explain the difference between Fahrenheit and Celsius and how to convert from one to the other. It didn't really answer the question, so I will ask here, what is "temperature"? George

Kevin, It's an interesting site. Has some good information too. It is also a good place to direct the occasional home owner that stumbles into Mikes place wanting to know how to fix his furnace. George

Mike, Did you tap on the side of the water tank to see if it had any water in it? [:-eyebrows] There are abandon water tanks all over the country that still get a paint job every now and then. As for the problem, you mentioned "homeowner" work. I'll bet the nimrod was capable of almost anything. Even something that none of us have ever seen done before. George

Mike, That house here, on a $65,000 lot, with a $15,000 foundation and $40,000 worth of lot and home improvements would result in a $225,000 to $250,000 home. Well worth the $15,000 (average) cost to move. That is all just dollars and cents. Now about the real value .......... Priceless. If someone can get it to Toledo, I'll take it from there. George

Chad, How would this work? In HVAC, a capacitor has two leads (sort of in and out but not really) and is used to either "kick" start a motor as with a start capacitor or throw it out of phase as with a run capacitor. When the capacitor discharges wouldn't that defeat its purpose of protecting a GFCI? George

Billy, I am two posts late, but welcome to TIJ. It is nice to see another heating guy here. I'll bet you already know, flame rectification is more than a pilot sensor. We just had to transfer a serviceman to installation here at my sons company because of his 47% call back ratio. His biggest shortcoming was that he cleaned or replaced the flame sensor on every lockout call. Within two days, it was a no heat call again. As he said in his own defense, he was correct 53% of the time. As you no doubt know, that is not nearly good enough. With todays litigious society, to protect myself and this forum, I actually try to avoid home owner DIY questions. I am sure you understand that too. George

Chad, B.T.W. #1 is nothing less than brilliant. I just wanted you to know that it didn't go unnoticed or unappreciated. I may even try to obtain a U.S. patent on it. I will call it "Emergency Safety Lockout Override". I'll cut you in for a small piece of the action. George

Don, I can't speak to code, but I can tell you that no municipality up here would allow that. I would appeal to the buyers common sense whether code agrees or not. George

I'm With Chad. The system is locking out for some reason. Interrupting the power is resetting the electronics. It could be any one of 1/2 dozen common reasons or... Trouble shooting over the phone is next to impossible, Over the internet, it is downright dangerous. see #2

Don, Its an older unit, as Mitch says, low charge would be my guess too. With out measuring the temp at both sides of the coil (not the registers) and checking the operating pressure, we are only guessing. George

WHY?