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When will our industry give a serious look at E & O from the "self insured" perspective? 1000 home inspectors each contributing $2,000 per year into our own fund would pay to fight a lot of frivolous claims. Add to this the reputation we would quickly earn among these ambulance chasing attorneys and … wala …. we would each be paying in only $1,000 per year before you would know it.

Kurt, I volunteer. I'll review you and you review me. There will however have to be a vow of secrecy.

Chad, Now that I think about it, perhaps you and I could have some fun in an organization with a couple of members right out of Disney World.

Branden, I agree completely. This organization, left unchecked, will eventually kill us all. The fact that these airheads were retained by Nick to speak for his organization with such misrepresentation, and there was not a mass exodus from the group, speaks volumes about their collective mentality. Now should we apply this same inability to reason to their ability to inspect? Someone Please explain to me why this should not be a concern. Terence, Thanks.

Come on now. When is enough, enough? Team informercials? How many lies can you pick up here? http://wm.kusa.gannett.edgestreams.net/ ... 080306.wmv

I don't know Mike. Most times we just butt heads and we both walk away with a headache. HOWEVER, I could live with a king with such a philosophy, headache or not

It was not meant to be such, but I can say that if I wanted to be a member of an organization of home inspectors, I would avoid any association with NACHI like poison ivy. I would (and do) however have the opposite attitude towards ASHI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCZu8Wsg ... inspection How about this?

I'm sure there pobably are local companies, but I have not even thought to look for any. I have my web site back now but they lost 1/2 of it. I know what is missing, I just can't figure out how to put it back. I'm going to drop these people as soon as I can, before it happens again. Thank you gentlemen. I appreciate the feed back.

Can anyone recommend a GOOD web host? My new one stinks. I had Burlee for 3 years, no problem. Then they were bough out by Interland. I had Interland for 3 years, no problem. Then they were bought out by Web.com I have had Web.com for two weeks and in that period of time my site has been down more than it has been up and I can no longer connect with it because they have lost Front Page extensions. George

Disgusting. Nick Gromicko Founder National Association of Certified Home Inspectors www.nachi.org I have been away for a while, How long has Nick been acknowledging that he is disgusting?

I guess Scott will never learn. Poor guy, I see a few rust stains all the time.

I'm impressed Don. I can't even spell sublimonatable. But, what I can do is remove the avatar. Even though it seems to be the one used the least. Now, will somebody explain to this syber-idiot how to post his own avatar?

Hi Jimmy! No I haven't. Not even thinking about it. It is just that blue is my favorite color and that logo always makes me smile. After Kurt's post, it will now make me laugh out loud.

Hi Don, You are absolutely correct, you have to know your market. With cable TV the ads are really quite cheap. I found the do-it-yourself, home improvement, house detective shows don’t yield much. But the news and brainy shows like Nova do work quite well. For the mall I mean set up a table and sit there and talk to people. That DOES work and it only cost me $175 for 3 days that produced 5 inspections at $395 each. My radio campaign on the other hand on fizzled. As far as the truck lettering, I already pay more for commercial insurance. But take a look at why you might need commercial insurance, (tool coverage in my case). I a not sure about the team sponsorship either but the idea was name recognition. After you become known well enough, people just automatically call you. It is an unconscious thing I am told. The newspaper ads either have to be target specific or super generic. I got this from Chris P. I advertised in an area with a lot of new subdivisions for “warranty inspectionsâ€

I couldn't help but notice all the cobwebs over here on this topic. Here are a few things that worked for me: 1/ Mind set. I made up my mind that the home inspection business can be run just like any other business in my town. So I looked around at what other business were doing. 2/ Advertise: Newspaper (Q $ A form), billboard, cable TV, radio, truck lettering, newsletters, sponsorship of local sports teams, join the local chamber of commerce, Lions Club and Rotary Club. Mall displays, yard signs, a booth at local home improvement shows and bulk mail flyers. Advertisement must be consistent and always include a reason to call you. Like "before your new home warranty is up". 3/ Farm (cultivate) the heck out everyone you ever met. Family, friend’s neighbors and most of all every single past customer needs some kind of contact every other month to keep your name and what you do fresh in their mind. This contact can be a snail-mailed or email newsletter, phone call or even just a card. The contact should also contain some kind of useful information for them. Like how to clean and store used paintbrushes. You really can generate all the business you can handle without ever stepping foot into a real estate office. In fact, after not too long, referrals from past customers (I don't call them clients) will keep you busy enough that you can stop advertising. I forgot to mention, my advertising always included the hook .."For pricing, visit my web site." The whole idea was to get them there where I could REALLY advertise. What does everybody else do?

This will be interesting. For optimum heat transfer the transfer medium will need to be in direct contact with its heat source. For that to happen somebody is going to be needed to take his or her toothbrush and clean the old, dried "heat source" from the 300-meter long coil. This could open up a whole new cottage industry and we would no longer need home inspections as our primary source of revenue. Maybe mold is gold after all?

Nah, knowing this stuff makes us look smart. That is why I carry half the meters and guages I do.

Scott, If only we could get this from your lips to divine ears. If you remember, this issue of self-insurance was really hashed around several years ago, I believe on the ASHI forum as well as here. But for some reason most associations are afraid to even consider it. Do the math for heavens sake. Lets just say 8,000 QUALIFIED, conscientious, well-trained, experienced home inspectors were to unite. You know the kind, the ones like us that no one has ever had a successful lawsuit against. Lets charge each of them $2,000 a year with a $1,500 deductible. That is SIXTEEN MILLION dollars a year (escalating) fund and no spoiled freezer meat claims. Step two. No more rolling over and playing dead by passing out $10,000 (nuisance) settlements like Halloween candy. Pay just claims, but fight the stupid claims and even counter sue. Word would soon get out to the ambulance chasers far and wide that the Home Inspection Industry is no longer a big fat sitting duck. I told the story about how my lodge (FOP 130) went self insured with our own life insurance about 15 years ago. Within 7 years our premiums had dropped from $50 a year to nothing, because the past premiums earned enough interest to pay the future premiums. Coverage, by the way, went from $1,000 to $2,500. Small potatoes you say? … SURE ! But, scale is not the issue; it’s the dynamics that are important here. Make no mistake insurance is very a profitable business. Just look to where government goes when they need to borrow money. E&O carriers are making huge sums of money off of us. Don’t believe their propaganda to the contrary. The problem is they have no incentives to keep costs down because they just pass them onto us while adding a tidy little margin to boot. Can we do this? Absolutely!! Will we? Probably not until we get to a place where the premiums are equal to or greater than our gross income. But, by then it will be too late. George www.ChampionInspections.com

How about throwing good money after bad? Without a matched unit, you will not receive the SEER rating you just paid to have installed. I would be careful about any void warranty claims. I have never heard of any manufacturer doing that. That sounds like something from some shylock contractor.

Well I am all for that. As you probably already know, my best friend is NOT a realtor. It couldn't be. By definition, you shouldn't hate your "best" friend.

Kurt wrote: This sort of thing is going to be getting more airtime in the near future. The inspection business is now mainstream, and it has a strong effect on the real estate transaction, as it should. (I say AMEN BROTHER) The real estate industry (it's not a profession) (I say AMEN BROTHER) historically has taken immediate & powerful steps to squash anything that effects or alters control of the transaction by the realtors. The track record is pretty much 100% success in keeping any intelligent consumer business practice out of the process. The real estate industry is not about buying; it's about selling. (I say AMEN BROTHER) Now we're in the game as advocates for buyers; that's a bad thing for the real estate industry, a good thing for consumers. (I say AMEN BROTHER) Real estater's will be pushing this sort of crap harder & harder as buyer's find their voice in the transaction. Look for more limitations on what we're allowed to say, or how we say it. It's showdown time folks; the Justice Dept. has the NAR in Federal Court right now, right here in Chicago. It's the first salvo for breaking up the hegemony of realtors. Realtors aren't going to take it lightly; it's a $65 billion commission industry. (I ask: CAN YOU ELABORATE?) Expect lots more limitations in contracts about what folks are allowed to do, or not do, relative to the inspection practice. (I say AMEN BROTHER) Hell, I feel like I don't have to go to Church next Sunday.

I saw the following on the web site of an Ohio inspector: The Inspection addendum forms used by most Realtors in Ohio limit what you as a buyer can ask the seller to repair or replace. The standard form states that you can only ask that the Seller repair or replace any item that is defective or relates to safety or habitability. I would like to ask any of our Ohio brothers if this true? In Michigan, if I am buying a house and insist that the living room be painted blue, the seller has two choices, paint the living blue and negotiate who pays, or tell me to take a hike. I then have two choices, take that hike, or drop the demand. I would like to ask everybody else, why would the State of Ohio inject itself into such matters? Does anybody smell realtor and attorney here? Realtors want to limit negotiation and lawyers want to fight over the definition of the word habitability. Why would people living in America tolorate such nonsence from their state government? Michigan once had to go to war with Ohio to force them to take Toledo. Seems that after swallowing that bitter pill, they can swallow just about anything.

"Roll out" like that when adequate combustion air is available can only mean one thing, an obstruction. The obsruction could have started anywhere in the exhaust system but will eventually plug everything up all the way back to the burners. The amazing thing here is that you didn't mention anybody being killed by the fumes.

Hi Mike, Yep, I'm still pluggin away. Slowing down a bit though. The big Six-O has a way of doing that to ya.