Hi to all, before I start, I must acknowledge that due to my "political" affiliations I know I'm gonna get my ass kicked in this forum. However I do find myself nodding my head to the comments of both Brian G. and (heavens forbid) Jimmy M. Of the whole issue of licensing, is incredibly contentious as we all know, and in particular the issuer grandfathering tends to raise more debates than any other area, the bottom line is, that those who have been involved in home inspections for longtime prior to the enactment of legislation feel they have no requirement, (or feel they should have no requirement) to be bound by the regulations that a new inspector would fall under. This has to be complete BS, I generally tend to find those newer members of our profession to be the most education hungry bunch I have ever seen in my life they will spend hundreds of dollars if not thousands to gain knowledge that many people feel they have already gained due to their years in the business. If someone else's previously commented that you can have one years experience 20 times or 20 years experience, and that is very much true statement, I personally tend to find that the older established businesses in the unlicensed states that I do business in do the very worst standards of reports that I have ever seen. So, where do we go with this as an industry ?? I sure as hell do no one spend the rest of my career acting as a sop for the real estate industry, the real bottom line is that all inspectors have a huge duty of care to their clients, whether they work in unlicensed states or an unregulated state the best that all of us can achieve is to be the best informed and the best educated inspectors that we possibly can and with the best when the world knows state licensing or national licensing is going to force us into being that. The state of New Jersey is currently a very interesting case on piont, insofar as they have enacted legislation that is not in anybody's best interests especially that of the consumer, not only that, but they've also elected to take a second look at the legislation that they have enacted because they realized that effectively they have handed control to the members of an industry that they had decided to regulate due to problems within that industry. So forgive my late-night ramblings, realistically what should make a good inspector, let's put out political affiliations aside and discuss wants are the minimum requirements for somebody to be able to prove to legislatures that they are competent to perform home inspections, and less bear in mind home inspectors on generalists, we're not required to be rocket scientists we're not required to being professional engineers we're not required to be anything other than an uninformed clients eyes when performing an inspection. Here are my own personal thoughts: 1) to have passed the NHIE all an equivalent psychometrically valid exam. 2) to have "N" number of inspections validated by one's peers. 3) to be mandated to carry errors and omissions insurance to a level that would meet any potential claims. I will state now that any perceptions that are held by members of this forum about my opinions based on my political affiliations are probably wrong, and to that extent the second this debates enters into the area off what various associations believe, i will stop contributions into this debate, which really would be a shame as I think as others have stated in other areas that this debate is worth having, even if it only serves to solidify what many of us already believe. Let the games commence !! Regards Gerry