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[#1] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 06:28:52 AM
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Found this on my Facebook page. It is a pretty good consumer approach to the problem.

https://www.angieslist.com/art...safe.htm

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[#2] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 07:22:57 AM
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I'd love to see the source for the following claim:

"An estimated 2,800 fires each year directly result from Federal Pacific panel breaker malfunction."

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[#3] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 07:50:54 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by Jim Katen

I'd love to see the source for the following claim:

"An estimated 2,800 fires each year directly result from Federal Pacific panel breaker malfunction."

Wow, I googled that phrase; it's all over the net. . .

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[#4] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 12:51:34 PM
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i believe that's a direct citation from
inspectapedia.com/fpe/FPE-Hazards-111202_small.pdf
"Estimating Fire Losses Associated With Circuit Breaker Malfunction", J.Aronstein and R. Lowry, Transactions of the 2011 IEEE Electrical Safety Workshop, Toronto
(Note: Due to conference rules that prohibit identification of brand names, the FPE Stab-Lok ? breakers are identified as "Brand X" in the published paper.)

if you haven't seen Doug Hansen's article it's well worth the read
http://www.adairinspection.com...acts.php

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[#5] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 7:45:39 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by BADAIR

i believe that's a direct citation from
inspectapedia.com/fpe/FPE-Hazards-111202_small.pdf
"Estimating Fire Losses Associated With Circuit Breaker Malfunction", J.Aronstein and R. Lowry, Transactions of the 2011 IEEE Electrical Safety Workshop, Toronto
(Note: Due to conference rules that prohibit identification of brand names, the FPE Stab-Lok ? breakers are identified as "Brand X" in the published paper.)


Got it. Thanks. It's basically a made-up number based on inference. The authors admit that it's not accurate but it's in "the right magnitude."


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[#6] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 7:47:11 PM
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FPE panels are accidents waiting to happen.

Two homes in our development have caught fire due to failures of breakers in the FPE panels in the homes.

The HOA for one 'high end' development in North Dallas sent a letter to all homeowners telling them that if their home still had an FPE panel installed they would have to replace the panel before the HOA would allow them to list their home for sale. This was several years ago and was an effort to deliver a message to homeowners to "pay attention" to the problems related with FPE panels.

An insurance company in California will not write coverage for homes with FPE panels.

And ... on it goes.

FPE panels need to be replaced ... period!!

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[#7] Posted: 02/27/2017 - 7:57:52 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Nolan Kienitz

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And ... on it goes.

FPE panels need to be replaced ... period!!



No argument from me. But citing made-up numbers doesn't help the argument, it weakens the argument.

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[#8] Posted: 02/28/2017 - 05:05:36 AM
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I agree with Jim K. Educating the potential buyer/seller has always been a problem for us. Both before google and now.
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[#9] Posted: 02/28/2017 - 05:48:30 AM
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Fake news strikes again.
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[#10] Posted: 02/28/2017 - 05:56:44 AM
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It's mostly good. I'll take it, wart and all.

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